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Post by Swarm on Mar 2, 2017 13:05:31 GMT -5
Maybe someone can post a match where Graves kills it on commentary. I've been watching full time since the football season ended, and haven't seen one. Usually when an announcer is bad, I don't even hear them. Just zone them out. Like Otunga. But Graves is so bad I notice how bad he is.
I think it was on RAW, someone (maybe Joe vs Cesaro) put someone else in a basic leg lock and Graves lost his mind "LOOK! LOOK!"
I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by Swarm on Mar 2, 2017 13:10:04 GMT -5
Maybe someone can post a match where Graves kills it on commentary. I've been watching full time since the football season ended, and haven't seen one. Usually when an announcer is bad, I don't even hear them. Just zone them out. Like Otunga. But Graves is so bad I notice how bad he is. I think it was on RAW, someone (maybe Joe vs Cesaro) put someone else in a basic leg lock and Graves lost his mind "LOOK! LOOK!" I'll see if I can find it. Found it. 45 seconds in Graves responds to a simple knee bar with "WOW! WOW!" Cmon now. Calm down.
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Post by Shane Sullivan on Mar 2, 2017 13:15:27 GMT -5
Lol. Yeah it's true he does say some goofy stuff, but he has made me laugh where I almost always ignore the commentary. Maybe I will pay better attention and see what you mean. For now he may be the shiny turd amongst all the turds, I don't know. He basically has Michael Cole to learn from. Give him time he might grow on you.
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Post by pikemojo on Mar 2, 2017 15:46:53 GMT -5
I guess I'm on the opposing side of a lot of WWE fans. Graves isn't great but he isn't half as bad as JBL is. That guy is just obnoxious on commentary. While we're on the topic... Why do we NEED a heel announcer? Why can't we just have announcers? Part of why Graves might seem artificial is because he is constantly trying to play a part instead of just naturally announce / respond to the action.
And Mauro is my favorite announcer WWE has.
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Post by vx on Mar 2, 2017 15:51:04 GMT -5
I guess I'm on the opposing side of a lot of WWE fans. Graves isn't great but he isn't half as bad as JBL is. That guy is just obnoxious on commentary. While we're on the topic... Why do we NEED a heel announcer? Why can't we just have announcers? Part of why Graves might seem artificial is because he is constantly trying to play a part instead of just naturally announce / respond to the action. And Mauro is my favorite announcer WWE has. I hear what you are saying about Graves not coming off as genuine as a heel announcer. Some people were great at that role. Lawler was always a better heel announcer than babyface announcer. And, of course, back on Georgia Championship Wrestling, Roddy Piper showed what a good heel announcer could add to a show. Then we had Michael Cole heel announcer and the less said about that the better....
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Post by Swarm on Mar 2, 2017 16:02:08 GMT -5
Jericho would make a great announcer. Miz, too. The best guys were always ex wrestlers like Ventura, Monsoon and Heenan. They could mentally match the action in the ring with quick wit.
These guys today - When they aren't yelling over each other, they look and sound like infomercial actors taking turns saying their lines. There doesn't seem to be anything natural about it.
I watch NJPW on AXS, and JR with Josh Barnett do an awesome job calling the matches, talking about the guys histories, putting over the importance of the match etc...its like night and day.
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Post by jwar on Mar 2, 2017 16:39:21 GMT -5
They need to retire the Undertaker, have him wrestle one last match at Wrestlemania, he wins, then they find some old footage of Paul Bearer to put on the screen saying "It's Time" or something then all the people he beat over the course of the streak come to ring side with a coffin and take him away. Can even use Kane in the match and have them both retire.
Every time I see Titus O'Neal as much as I love him, it just seems like hes still paying a price for Vince being angry with him over that stupid stage incident.
Bo Dallas needs to go to the Wyatts he was growing a beard for a bit, then shaved it, so seemed possible at one point
The Acension, just push them already they paid enough, they would be 100 times more exciting then trying to watch the Uso's play heels with no story.
Big Show needs retire also, it may be just me but hes starting to look like Andre at the end, with the shakey knees and slow movement.
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Post by vx on Mar 2, 2017 16:46:53 GMT -5
Jericho would make a great announcer. Miz, too. The best guys were always ex wrestlers like Ventura, Monsoon and Heenan. They could mentally match the action in the ring with quick wit. These guys today - When they aren't yelling over each other, they look and sound like infomercial actors taking turns saying their lines. There doesn't seem to be anything natural about it. I watch NJPW on AXS, and JR with Josh Barnett do an awesome job calling the matches, talking about the guys histories, putting over the importance of the match etc...its like night and day. Miz and Jericho have natural heel abilities. And have shown to be great heels on the mic. I could for sure see them as heel commentators. Heenan was awesome until WCW ruined him!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 17:10:26 GMT -5
Maybe someone can post a match where Graves kills it on commentary. You're gonna be waiting a long, long time for someone to post a match where he's not actively bad.
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Post by jimsteel on Mar 13, 2017 13:00:37 GMT -5
HE IS OFFICIALLY GONE NOW WWE has come to terms on the release of Jack Swagger as of today, March 13, 2017. WWE wishes Swagger the best in all his future endeavors.
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