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Post by chewey on Jan 29, 2008 7:08:32 GMT -5
I never used any commissioner or referee card except for Commissioner Carter's. I just found that I'd rather book those things myself, rather than rely on dice, but that's just me.
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Post by antimony on Jan 29, 2008 7:57:16 GMT -5
I never used any commissioner or referee card except for Commissioner Carter's. I just found that I'd rather book those things myself, rather than rely on dice, but that's just me. The Commissioner cards were a godsend for me, because it prevented me from pushing my favorite guys and simply burying the ones I hated. If I wanted to book myself as "Evil Owner" I'd make a card of myself. Besides, "No Chance In You-Know-Where" is already being used by Krakan in my GWF. And the fact that they cycled out every few years allowed me to incorporate them into the storylines in a meaningful way (that is, in a way that had repercussions for them). Now that I'm in my (hopefully) final restart, I might hold off on introducing the Massif SE card to give him a little more time as a grappler. He's just too good to only be around for six or seven years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 9:09:31 GMT -5
Originally posted by Knapik:
NECESSARY means something has changed. I suppose necessary is subjective. I realized at the end I could have just listed what WASN'T necessary haha.
2094 - Alpha Foce - art update 2095 - Brute/Massacre - art update 2095 - Bishop Hell - art update 2096 - Chaos - art update 2098 - Maxine Babe - NECESSARY (valet with wrestling stats) 2099 - Massif Referee - NECESSARY (special ref) 2099 - Colossus - NECESSARY (stat update - upgrade) 2099 - Wolf - art update 2099 - Thakur the Oppressor - NECESSARY (makes rulings on Gladiator feud decisions) 2100 - Mayhem - art update 2100 - Grunge - art update 2101 - Commissioner Grogan - NECESSARY (new commish card) 2101 - Heracles - NECESSARY (stat update) 2102 - Qualitar's Talk Show - NECESSARY (talk show card) 2102 - Pegasus - art update 2102 - Alpha Force - art update 2103 - Ram - NECESSARY (Ram's slave card -stats change, I believe) 2103 - Dark Justice - NECESSARY (new bada$$ persona with stat change) 2104 - Monad - NECESSARY (stat change) 2104 - Mayhem - NECESSARY (stat change after joining W.A.R.) 2104 - Doomsayer - NECESSARY (Doomsayer wrestling card) 2104 - Draconian Sheik - NECESSARY (stat change) 2105 - Dreadnaught - NECESSARY (stat change) 2105 - Death's Head - NECESSARY (stat change)2105 - Maxine Babe - NECESSARY (stat change) 2106 - Krakan - NECESSARY (manager card) 2106 - Lord Nexus - NECESSARY (manager card) 2106 - Janus - NECESSARY (stat change) 2106 - Vertigo - NECESSARY (manager card) 2107 - GWF Commissioner 2107 - NECESSARY (new commish) 2107 - CPC Commissioner - NECESSARY (new commish) 2108 - Chaos - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Alpha Force - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Lance At-Las - NECESSARY (stat change) 2108 - Greg The Hammer Valentine - NECESSARY (only available this way or through Legends of Wrestling) 2109 - Mandrill - art update 2109 - Brute - NECESSARY (manager card) 2109 - Genocide - NECESSARY (stat change - downgrade after separation from Buck Steele) 2110 - Mutant - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2110 - Trisis - NECESSARY (interview card) 2110 - Wolf - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2111 - Warfare - NECESSARY (stat change - from tag to singles) 2111 - Rising Sun - NECESSARY (stat change - from tag to singles) 2111 - Terminus - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2111 - Euritar - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2112 - Murdok - NECESSARY (otherwise not available until 2117) 2112 - Avenging Warrior - NECESSARY (manager card) 2112 - Thunder - NECESSARY (stat change - upgrade) 2112 - Trench - NECESSARY (stat change) 2113 - Vengeance - NECESSARY (stat change) 2113 - Mesmer - NECESSARY (magic card!) 2113 - Phantast - NECESSARY (magic card!) 2113 - Avalanche - NECESSARY (only way available) 2114 - Genocide - NECESSARY (stat change) 2114 - Bounty Hunter - NECESSARY (manager card) 2114 - Atys Tetrac - NECESSARY (stat change for Manslaughter) 2114 - Spike - NECESSARY (Minister of War card) 2115 - Blazing Skull - NECESSARY (stat change) 2115 - Vallah - NECESSARY (Keeper of the Realms w/chart) 2116 - Atman - NECESSARY (stat change) 2116 - Commissioner Massif - NECESSARY (new commish) 2117 - Warfare - NECESSARY (stat update) 2117 - Manslaughter - NECESSARY (stat update) 2118 - Maramus - NECESSARY (manager card) 2118 - Darkseed - NECESSARY (stat update - upgrade) 2118 - Disaster Limited Edition - art update
Also keep in mind you'll need Son of Bash, Galacticon Bash, all 6 promoter created cards (Halcon Oro, Kati, Comedy, Tragedy, Varsity, Sabre) and Birthday Bash. Birthday Bash only introduces Eagle, Blazing Skull, and Gila I believe.
Splatter - CPC 2116 - MANAGER CARD Comedy - CPC 2116 - STAT CHANGE (NEW WRESTLER) Gila - CPC 2117 - STAT CHANGE (MANAGER CARD w/ MOLLOCK) Franco Jesterelli - CPC 2117 - MANAGER CARD Killer Queen - CPC 2118 - STAT CHANGE Dr. Barnabas - CPC 2118 - MANAGER CARD Grunge - CPC 2119 - STAT CHANGE Commissioner Prell - CPC 2119 - NEW COMMISH Puma - CPC 2120 - STAT CHANGE - DOWNGRADE Talisman - CPC 2120 - MANAGER CARD
Originally posted by TheOtherTravis:
Just thought that I would add the few that were missing:
2100 - Grunge - art update 2102 - Alpha Force - art update 2106 - Krakan - manager card 2106 - Lord Nexus - manager card 2106 - Janus - stat change for when he joins CPC (debatable if this is an upgrade or downgrade) 2108 - Alpha Force - stat change (for when he teams with Chaos) 2108 - Chaos - stat change (for when he gets his confidence back) 2114 - Spike - Minister of War card (chart for when he accompanies Gladiators to ringside) 2115 - Vallah - Keeper of the Realms card (chart on back) 2116 - Atman - move names change for when he joins the Immortals, but no statistical changes.
I guess whether or not the cards are necessary are pretty much up to you. Although, I would say that at a minimum, the Alpha Force (2108) and Chaos (2108) cards are necessary.
Added by me: 2120 - Godsend SE- NECESSARY (stats change) 2120 - Ventross SE - NECESSARY (stats change)
~ :-Xsk
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Post by aquinas on Jan 29, 2008 9:23:52 GMT -5
I always felt it was a downgrade. GORDIAN KNOT lost a point, and I think he lost agility?
Don't remember the specifics, but at the time he was my top dog and the new card knocked him down a peg. Plus the art wasn't nearly as cool.
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Post by graymar on Jan 29, 2008 9:45:57 GMT -5
Another quick thought is that many of these wrestlers (Wolf, Mutant, etc.) are using the same card for years. The cards themselves get a little ratty over time (at least when I was rolling dice). So, a new fresh card is a blessing.
Graymar
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Post by Phoenix on Jan 29, 2008 12:05:09 GMT -5
What about Endgame 2117 SE? Was there a slight difference compared to his 2119 card?
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Post by wildfire on Jan 29, 2008 13:07:58 GMT -5
Osk left off the Aegis and Murdok SE's... which (I think) were 2121.(could be 2120 though, not sure)
The Aegis one is a BIG change... it features him in his battle armor.. which changes some stats and add a special ability.
Murdok's SE a more minor change(though does add a special ability as well), but has absolutely KILLER Daryl Banks art.
THere's also a Kill Prey one was the most recent set that has I think just a slight stat change (AG dropping by one IIRC) and a Monolith one that just has different art (not sure about that one though, as I didn't get it)
I love for someone to post what differences there are in any guys from the New Beginnings pack
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Post by chewey on Jan 29, 2008 13:36:11 GMT -5
Another quick thought is that many of these wrestlers (Wolf, Mutant, etc.) are using the same card for years. The cards themselves get a little ratty over time (at least when I was rolling dice). So, a new fresh card is a blessing. Graymar That is a very good point. And Wolf's SE card with the Aethran face paint also made a lot more sense for the storyline he was involved with at the time, so I think it certainly helps to play with that card.
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Post by Justin Case on Jan 29, 2008 14:12:39 GMT -5
What about Endgame 2117 SE? Was there a slight difference compared to his 2119 card? I think the only difference with Endgame's card (stat wise) was a tag option on L1D?! I could be wrong.
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Post by Knapik on Jan 29, 2008 15:12:22 GMT -5
Another quick thought is that many of these wrestlers (Wolf, Mutant, etc.) are using the same card for years. The cards themselves get a little ratty over time (at least when I was rolling dice). So, a new fresh card is a blessing. Graymar TOTALLY! The Wolf and Mutant SEs are two of my favorite all time cards!
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