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Post by Red Headed Stepchild on Jul 6, 2010 18:57:41 GMT -5
I don't like the coloring either ... I never pictured Chaos in purple and still don't. I think you need to figure way to cut costs not increase them. Well if you had a purple colored Chaos without ever seeing it in black & white, you may have felt differently. I think people need to wait and see it first before saying "I don't think it'll be very good in color." You may not like every card the way it's colored but you have to give it a chance first and not think you're not going to like it before you even see it. I don't see how Tom could reduce costs on a game that is $12 and has been for over a decade. What have you paid the exact same price for 10+ years? Truth is, Tom should have raised his prices a long time ago. I'm surprised the price hasn't been raised before now. Even if the price doubled so now it's $24 -- if you can't afford to save $2 a month, I don't know what to tell you. I can't wait to play my colored cards!!!! Really? Than how did Rob put out something like 17 cards (when all was said and done) , for the price of $12 .On thicker cardstock none the less.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 6, 2010 19:01:12 GMT -5
Yeah, but you don't know if Swarm actually saw a profit or even broke even charging $12.
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Post by cromsdevil on Jul 6, 2010 19:04:29 GMT -5
I love it and even with a price increase it's still cheaper than most alternatives. It's a one time fee, once a year for endless entertainment. Love it! My thoughts exactly. Even if they cost what a 360 or Ps3 games does, I still get literally HUNDREDS of hours of fun out of them. Mark me down as loving the change
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Post by Red Headed Stepchild on Jul 6, 2010 19:06:09 GMT -5
Yeah, but you don't know if Swarm actually saw a profit or even broke even charging $12. You are 100% right. I'm just a little exited.This subject isn't new at all.I remember fights about this years ago.I just think that Tom should have asked us all first, and not just some of the inner circle.
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Post by Werner Mueck on Jul 6, 2010 19:09:37 GMT -5
I tried giving a set away at a convention to a gaming store who had a room setup as a sort of lending library. The owner didn't want anything to do with the game because it wasn't in color. He actually refused to take something I was willing to donate to him just because it was in black and white.
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Post by payback on Jul 6, 2010 19:13:45 GMT -5
Well if you had a purple colored Chaos without ever seeing it in black & white, you may have felt differently. I think people need to wait and see it first before saying "I don't think it'll be very good in color." You may not like every card the way it's colored but you have to give it a chance first and not think you're not going to like it before you even see it. I don't see how Tom could reduce costs on a game that is $12 and has been for over a decade. What have you paid the exact same price for 10+ years? Truth is, Tom should have raised his prices a long time ago. I'm surprised the price hasn't been raised before now. Even if the price doubled so now it's $24 -- if you can't afford to save $2 a month, I don't know what to tell you. I can't wait to play my colored cards!!!! Really? Than how did Rob put out something like 17 cards (when all was said and done) , for the price of $12 .On thicker cardstock none the less. Well for starters, he used a different printer so I'm not sure what price Tom gets for printing. Also I don't think Rob would have felt right charging more for his game (which is classified under Alternate Universe) than official GWF sets. And I know for a fact that Rob had told Tom and Todd that if there was any profit made, to give it to Tom. Rob just wanted to get back the money he used to front the project. Bottom line, the colored cards is a natural step in the progress in this game, as was earlier stated. If Tom wants to get younger people to buy this game, it HAS to be in color. I remember him saying how when he went to GenCon (I think) and he got the biggest reaction from people when they saw a few of the colored legends cards (I think the ones that were done by Kevin Knipe if I'm not mistaken). I just don't get how people can say anything negative about something they haven't seen yet. Tom has rarely disappointed me and I don't think he'll start now. The colored pics we've seen as teasers look amazing so I don't see why the rest of the fed should be any different.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jul 6, 2010 19:16:22 GMT -5
Yeah, but you don't know if Swarm actually saw a profit or even broke even charging $12. You are 100% right. I'm just a little exited.This subject isn't new at all.I remember fights about this years ago.I just think that Tom should have asked us all first, and not just some of the inner circle. The problem with that is it's Tom's company. There's a lot to be said for being a long time fan and for showing such loyalty to the game. But there are times when a product has to grow up to stay relevant in the market place. COTG, IMO, has been evolving into a product that can survive in the 21st century over the last few years. Online was the first step of that and color is the second step. I started playing the game in 2001 and it really was a different world back then. I mean, look at RPG game books. Those are all in color now and it used to be that D&D was the only thing in color. It's pretty much expected that you're putting an RPG book out in color or you better not bother trying to seel it to the mass market. COTG is at the same point now. It's a black and white product in a world of color. How can it compete with that when it's only $12. There's the faithful that will always be there but as a businessman you want to grow. So you gamble upsetting some of the long time players to make a grab at a larger audience. It's what you do to survive.
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Post by Alexander Ubel on Jul 6, 2010 19:17:53 GMT -5
I doubt the price of cards are going to double, but if it does its not going to be that bad really. I no longer buy card stock anyway so color is not an issue.
I want to know if the digital prices are going to go up with the card stock?
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Post by SuperNaturalX on Jul 6, 2010 19:27:33 GMT -5
As an old dog, I love the b/w, but I see the need for color to compete in todays market. So, if it means more people will buy the game, then I am all for it. Plus I think the coloring for the cards I have seen are outstanding.
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Post by j on Jul 6, 2010 19:27:01 GMT -5
I wonder if the handbook will be in color too
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