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Post by eddydeanclassic on Jan 9, 2014 13:12:33 GMT -5
Those are awesome! Any chance you can pdf them?
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Post by low on Jan 9, 2014 15:12:01 GMT -5
Those are awesome! Any chance you can pdf them? Since they are Cory's, I'll definitely run it by him
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Post by low on Jan 9, 2014 15:16:13 GMT -5
I agree....in LOW a finisher has to be special to get a +3 or higher. But it also depends how it was booked... For example I am debating on if I would like to see a +3 DQ option for Patera'a swinging neckbreaker for how it was booked........ Kevin Sullivan and Billy White Wolf had "storyline broken necks" (turned one into a Satanic cult figure and the other into an Arabic Madman , but I digress)... and Rick McGraw's injury was blamed on it... ...... does that make it a +3? Race should have the +3 and Orndorff the +2 (but essentially a piledriver is a piledriver). I'd also say that LAWLER gets a +3 too, (in part due to how severe the move was treated in Memphis). Now you made me go back and look at like finishers, lol I saw Justin Credible, who was actually a (0) for THATS INCREDIBLE I looked at a few others and saw some had a figure four. Buddy Rogers was a +4 while a Greg Valentine was +2. Would those two compare to a Race and Orndorff?
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Post by inquisator on Jan 9, 2014 16:17:25 GMT -5
that is actually the best example.........I think any of us would give say a Ric Flair Figure Four a +3, because of its effectiveness.......and yet he was taught the hold by Valentine.....who probably is the actual best at applying it....Booking does matter... Even Cory gave Jack Brisco a +3 Figure Four and Jerry a +1 ( and I know Jerry was every bit as good as his brother .....but never a World Champ...) I think that is exactly the difference between Race and Orndorff Yet Jake's DDT is clearly a +3, and everyone else's barely qualifies as a finisher.....Jake's DDT looked better but more importantly was booked to be better.... Debating Finishers is one of the joys my brother and i engage in ....and I appreciate how seriously you take the stats as well....
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Post by low on Jan 9, 2014 16:24:11 GMT -5
that is actually the best example.........I think any of us would give say a Ric Flair Figure Four a +3, because of its effectiveness.......and yet he was taught the hold by Valentine.....who probably is the actual best at applying it....Booking does matter... Even Cory gave Jack Brisco a +3 Figure Four and Jerry a +1 ( and I know Jerry was every bit as good as his brother .....but never a World Champ...) I think that is exactly the difference between Race and Orndorff Yet Jake's DDT is clearly a +3, and everyone else's barely qualifies as a finisher.....Jake's DDT looked better but more importantly was booked to be better.... Debating Finishers is one of the joys my brother and i engage in ....and I appreciate how seriously you take the stats as well.... I hope others think this as well, but I think most who create a bootleg want to keep the integrity of the game, the wrestlers and the history of the sport in mind.
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Post by inquisator on Jan 9, 2014 16:36:37 GMT -5
which is why i appreciate the LOW community.....because it is really all about the game.....and Wrestling History...
Hell, I think we enjoy the process, and the debate.......as much as the actual results...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 17:19:25 GMT -5
Not sure I like +3 for Kurt's Ankle Lock. It really never beat the opponent the first time he locked it in, usually took once or twice before he grapevined it and actually got the win.
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Post by low on Jan 10, 2014 0:16:15 GMT -5
I agreed with Switch's suggestion and updated Kurt Angle on the Olympians file
I also added a new file - WWE Attitude Mid Card - Godfather, Hardcore Holly, Test & Ken Shamrock
Hope you enjoy
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Post by low on Jan 14, 2014 7:25:12 GMT -5
Updated a new file - Mid South Legends (thanks to Ken West for stats): Junkyard Dog, Bill Watts, Ernie Ladd and Karl Kox
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Post by inquisator on Jan 14, 2014 9:28:30 GMT -5
Great art for ERNIE LADD...
The true king of wrestling is one of my all time favorites......Awesome WWWF feuds with Andre and Backlund...as good a speaker as anyone........ Never given enough credit on how important a figure he was in pro wrestling history.... and how can you not love an Asian Spike... also great to see Bill Watts, a great wrestling mind, who unfortunately is remembered for the WCW mess and his jobber of a son...
as always love the stuff and I like seeing the Dog with the -3.......he is never given credit on how powerful he truly was.....too many only remember "Grab Them' Cakes" and not enough remember "Another One Bites The Dust"
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