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Post by jimsteel on Jul 15, 2015 22:12:10 GMT -5
Hernandez is no longer with TNA after just recently returning to the company and joining The Beat Down Clan, following a run with Lucha Underground. His departure is due to issues between TNA and Lucha Underground that have led to planned Impact Wrestling segments being pulled from upcoming episodes and storylines being dropped.
Hernandez was reportedly signed by TNA after telling officials that contractually, he was free and clear to do so. After Hernandez returned at the TNA tapings, Lucha Underground officials contacted TNA and informed them that Hernandez was still under contract to them and couldn't legally appear on TNA programming.
TNA was put into a situation where they could be sued but faced another problem because Impact is taped well in advance and Hernandez had been used with The BDC. TNA officials reportedly tried to work out a deal with Lucha Underground that would allow the existing taped footage to be used and even offered to pay Lucha Underground for Hernandez' appearances but Lucha Underground turned them down.
TNA has made the decision to drop all current BDC storylines because they can't use the footage and it would have been impossible to edit around Hernandez. This obviously puts BDC members MVP and Kenny King in a bad spot as they could be off TV for some time. TNA is planning on replacing those matches and vignettes with existing material, including some from the recent Slammiversary pay-per-view. They will be filming material at the late-July TV tapings in Orlando that they can drop into those previously taped segments which can't be used.
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Post by Slammin' Sammy on Jul 16, 2015 5:11:52 GMT -5
If true, that was a Richard move by Lucha Underground.
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Post by cruefan68 on Jul 16, 2015 8:57:49 GMT -5
Lucha Underground is actually in the right here. Hernandez is apparently still under contract to them and is currently appearing on pre-taped television for them so what made TNA think they could sign him and start putting him on TV? Did anyone at TNA bother to check with Lucha Underground regarding his contractual status? It has not been stated whether LU is doing a second season (hopefully they are) but TNA had no right putting someone on TV who is still under contract to another promotion.
TNA has made a lot of mistakes but this one takes the cake. They pre-taped segments with Hernandez involved, including major angles with the BDC, and now have to edit them off television. Way to go TNA, the sinking ship just dropped a few more depths. Ring of Honor had a similar situation with Matt Sydal regarding a non-compete due to his contractual status with WWE and wisely waited it out before using him. At least ROH knows how to handle business the right way. Dixie Carter, TNA talent relations and TNA legal are the only ones to blame for this mess not Lucha Underground.
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Post by executioner on Jul 16, 2015 10:22:49 GMT -5
Agree with cruefan68 on this one. TNA was in the wrong--and I say this despite not being a LU fan (its an okay show, just not my thing). Moreover, TNA should have done its due diligence on this one. Goodness the "Death of TNA" book will need 2 volumes at this point.
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Post by Slammin' Sammy on Jul 16, 2015 10:49:02 GMT -5
While I understand your point, doesn't this seem like the same shrewd business moves that WWE does and everyone complains about? If they made a mistake and were willing to pay for it, and as 2 companies just striving to maintain, wouldn't it benefit both to just work together? I'm just asking not trying to stir any problems. And I'm not a TNA mark or anything. I'm a big Lucha fan. Don't really like TNA but do watch occasionally.
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Post by executioner on Jul 16, 2015 10:58:02 GMT -5
TNA did not do anything shrewd, they screwed up. To TNA's credit they are fixing the issue (granted AFTER LU pointed it out).
On some level TNA and LU should be able to co-exist. But that is on them.
While WWE has made many, good, bad, and downright appalling business moves, WWE gets this issue right. On some level WWE gets more than a few things right, often in spite of themselves.
Regarding my general comment about TNA is this issue with Hernandez is just Exhibit 970,154,321 of its trail of face palm worthy decisions.
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Post by cruefan68 on Jul 16, 2015 13:52:38 GMT -5
Agree with cruefan68 on this one. TNA was in the wrong--and I say this despite not being a LU fan (its an okay show, just not my thing). Moreover, TNA should have done its due diligence on this one. Goodness the "Death of TNA" book will need 2 volumes at this point. The "Death of TNA" might number the same amount of pages as War and Peace, only we will all be dumber from reading the TNA book
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Post by executioner on Jul 16, 2015 14:17:56 GMT -5
Agree with cruefan68 on this one. TNA was in the wrong--and I say this despite not being a LU fan (its an okay show, just not my thing). Moreover, TNA should have done its due diligence on this one. Goodness the "Death of TNA" book will need 2 volumes at this point. The "Death of TNA" might number the same amount of pages as War and Peace, only we will all be dumber from reading the TNA book Perhaps JJ, Dixie, and Russo, can provide the voices for the audio book version.
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Post by cruefan68 on Jul 16, 2015 14:37:20 GMT -5
The "Death of TNA" might number the same amount of pages as War and Peace, only we will all be dumber from reading the TNA book Perhaps JJ, Dixie, and Russo, can provide the voices for the audio book version. Now that is just cruel and unusual punishment. Now just imagine if everytime Jeff read his name in the book he read it as J-e-ff J-a-rr-e-tt
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Post by jimsteel on Jul 16, 2015 14:58:41 GMT -5
Hernandez supposedly told TNA that his contract with LU was done and he was free to sign with them
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