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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 5, 2016 15:24:59 GMT -5
It feels like the King of Trios has become about bringing in names more than it was about an accolade for the regulars to add to their resume.
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Post by jimsteel on Sept 5, 2016 15:44:01 GMT -5
I think its a good thing for an outside team to win every now and then or at least go to the finals. Makes them look good with the fans if they don't know who will win every year. Not saying an outside team should win every year but now they make fans think if an outside team has a chance as over the years you almost knew they wouldnt
could bring in new fans
Now do I think the Sendai Girls should have won this year? No they shouldnt have
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 5, 2016 15:52:32 GMT -5
Oh I agree. Outsiders should make the finals. I even understood last year because those were big teams but this year's final was just ridiculous to me.
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Post by TTX on Sept 5, 2016 17:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah I wish Hallowicked's team would have won. Outsiders winning are cool but it seems to be becoming too common lately.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 17:57:57 GMT -5
Hallowicked and the HeXed Men didn't need to win the thing. The manner in which they were eliminated cements them as overpowering bad-hineys (keeping it PG 'cause it's Chikara). Anything other than an overwhelming victory wouldn't have done them as much good as getting the rare excessive violence DQ.
I'm happy for the winners; someone with more knowledge and experience as a booker than I have thought they deserved to win, and I'm really in no position to argue.
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Post by Tournament Master on Sept 6, 2016 0:24:51 GMT -5
Yeah I wish Hallowicked's team would have won. Outsiders winning are cool but it seems to be becoming too common lately. Funny that outsiders actually won every big this this weekend, the Trios tournament, Rey de Volodores and the tag guantlet. I thought Hallowicked's team would get something, but the trios team was DQed, Frightmare was removed due to injury and the Batiri weren't entered into the gauntlet. So I guess their strength is still intact.
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Post by amazingbadger on Sept 6, 2016 13:03:16 GMT -5
Hallowicked and the HeXed Men didn't need to win the thing. The manner in which they were eliminated cements them as overpowering bad-hineys (keeping it PG 'cause it's Chikara). Anything other than an overwhelming victory wouldn't have done them as much good as getting the rare excessive violence DQ. I'm happy for the winners; someone with more knowledge and experience as a booker than I have thought they deserved to win, and I'm really in no position to argue. Actually I think that they did. Winning KoT would've established them as the top trio in Chikara and shown that they were a major threat and worthy of the big bad position for this season. Getting DQ'd does nothing for them at all. I mean really the supposed diabolic mastermind's plans foiled by his own stupidity? The excessive violence not even resulting in an injury to the other team nor preventing them from winning the tournament? Really the HeXed Men look weaker because of this not stronger.
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 6, 2016 14:38:10 GMT -5
Hallowicked and the HeXed Men didn't need to win the thing. The manner in which they were eliminated cements them as overpowering bad-hineys (keeping it PG 'cause it's Chikara). Anything other than an overwhelming victory wouldn't have done them as much good as getting the rare excessive violence DQ. I'm happy for the winners; someone with more knowledge and experience as a booker than I have thought they deserved to win, and I'm really in no position to argue. Actually I think that they did. Winning KoT would've established them as the top trio in Chikara and shown that they were a major threat and worthy of the big bad position for this season. Getting DQ'd does nothing for them at all. I mean really the supposed diabolic mastermind's plans foiled by his own stupidity? The excessive violence not even resulting in an injury to the other team nor preventing them from winning the tournament? Really the HeXed Men look weaker because of this not stronger. Exactly. Remember how unstoppable the BDK looked in 2010 when they marched through the tournament and won it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 16:23:20 GMT -5
I can see both of your points. It just registers differently with me--like these guys have an agenda that is beyond simple recognition. They don't need to be Chkara's King of Trios, because they answer to a higher power, and that higher power wanted them to hurt someone, preferably someone smaller and weaker than them.
Now think of the impact: if they no longer care about winning or losing simple "mortal" matches, everyone should be scared of facing them. You never know when they are going to snap and offer up another sacrifice to Nazmaldun.
They have been cemented as an overpowering group in other ways; they don't need Chikara's puny recognition.
Again, I see your points. I just have a different way of looking at it. 'sall good.
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Post by amazingbadger on Sept 6, 2016 16:34:40 GMT -5
What would be the point of coming together in Chikara, if not to dominate Chikara? Sure "we don't care about wins and losses" sounds good on paper but really all it means is "we get disqualified a lot" which doesn't really make them look all that good. Especially when members of the group tweet in character about the importance of winning the KoT for Nazmuldun.
Fact of the matter is, I don't want to watch a bunch of goofs getting themselves disqualified because the concept of winning and losing suddenly doesn't matter to them anymore. I want to watch a rudo team that's run by a diabolic mastermind who dominate because of the talent of their team and the brilliance of their leader's planning. Sadly in KoT we didn't get that.
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