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Post by DMKII: 'The Revenge' on Jan 21, 2018 15:07:56 GMT -5
You said it Todd! One of the classic lines in all of pro-wrestling.  |
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Post by DMKII: 'The Revenge' on Jan 21, 2018 15:12:06 GMT -5
My issue with it is that you're basically saying the pin itself is causing the fatigue but whatever works for a promoter is good to me. Well, I think Tom originally intended the adding of Fatigue tokens after a PIN attempt to be a simulation of the lingering effects of a wrestler's Finisher which automatically leads to the pin attempt, but in the case of Pin attempts following non-finisher moves, its kind of a little quirk of the game. It by no means breaks the game, and its easy to explain away. If pro-wrestling were real, a Piledriver would definitely have some lingering effects, and so, in the game, any move followed by a '-3' that leads to a pin attempt can be assumed to be a powerful and damaging move that wears on the opponent, hence adding the fatigue token following the unsuccessful Pin attempt. If that makes sense. |
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Post by DK II on Jan 21, 2018 21:55:01 GMT -5
My opinion: When you roll an Add 1 move, the opponent immediately adds 1 to their PIN rating. This is a reflection of damage caused by the Add 1 move. If the opponent then rolls PIN, and successfully kicks out, you Add 1 again. This is a reflection of the energy used to kick out. By not adding a second token after the kick out, you're cheating the offensive wrestler out of his Add 1 move, reducing it to a straight - 3 move. Nothing about that sequence makes the Add 1 move more powerful than a finisher, because all finishers result in an auto PIN. By not adding a second token after the kick out, you're giving the wrestler on defense a get out of jail free card for rolling his PIN. Ignoring the defensive roll cheats the wrestler on offense of that roll. From the very first time an "Add 1" showed up in the Federation (I think it was on Vengeance's first card, wasn't it?), this has been my opinion as well. |
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 21, 2018 22:47:01 GMT -5
My opinion: When you roll an Add 1 move, the opponent immediately adds 1 to their PIN rating. This is a reflection of damage caused by the Add 1 move. If the opponent then rolls PIN, and successfully kicks out, you Add 1 again. This is a reflection of the energy used to kick out. By not adding a second token after the kick out, you're cheating the offensive wrestler out of his Add 1 move, reducing it to a straight - 3 move. Nothing about that sequence makes the Add 1 move more powerful than a finisher, because all finishers result in an auto PIN. By not adding a second token after the kick out, you're giving the wrestler on defense a get out of jail free card for rolling his PIN. Ignoring the defensive roll cheats the wrestler on offense of that roll. Perfectly said. |
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