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Post by draygun072 on Aug 31, 2018 13:34:00 GMT -5
Wasn't there a cruiserweight out of the ring chart at one point? If so, is it in the ringside companion?
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Post by TTX on Aug 31, 2018 13:41:41 GMT -5
Answer to A yes, Answer to B I don't think so but it's been a long time. The cruiserweight out of the ring wasn't well balanced though and ill defined rules wise, so I don't miss it too much.
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Post by draygun072 on Aug 31, 2018 13:50:30 GMT -5
Appreciate it, I only ask because one of the next characters I'm working on would benefit from a risk taking type chart...I may come up with something as an alternative.
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Post by tommybrownell on Aug 31, 2018 15:43:57 GMT -5
Answer to A yes, Answer to B I don't think so but it's been a long time. The cruiserweight out of the ring wasn't well balanced though and ill defined rules wise, so I don't miss it too much. Online has a Suicide Dive chart that seems a loooooot different than the old Cruiserweight Out of the Ring chart I remember. Where did that one come in at, do you know?
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Post by TTX on Aug 31, 2018 16:14:10 GMT -5
It came out later to replace the cruiserweight one. This one allowed anyone to do the dives but agility still plays a part.
Personally, I cap it at two dives per match for a wrestler.
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Post by tommybrownell on Aug 31, 2018 17:00:32 GMT -5
It came out later to replace the cruiserweight one. This one allowed anyone to do the dives but agility still plays a part. Personally, I cap it at two dives per match for a wrestler. Probably not a bad idea. I've been using it as it make sense: Like if Quackenbush is throwing Necro Butcher to the floor, follow that up with a dive...less chance of getting killed by Necro Butcher by following him to the floor. And I use it sparingly for guys with -2/-1 Agility (and not at all for 0 or below).
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Post by TTX on Aug 31, 2018 17:35:58 GMT -5
Once in a while, I do it just for the pure silliness of it....especially in comedy matches. (Nothing like having Darkness Crabtree attempt one)
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Post by Pete on Aug 31, 2018 19:23:43 GMT -5
At an old GCon with a loser's-advance tournament involving job guys, I used a brilliant loophole to have my guy--Johnny Rocket--hurt his own cause, since Rocket technically was a "Cruiserweight" he could use the chart with his +4 Agility and kill himself each time.
The Cruiserweight Out of the Ring Chart has always been better in theory than in practice, it seems. Maybe it's really a solution in search of a problem, but I almost think the answer at this point is just to make a chart that's really dive-heavy but otherwise balanced between the A, B, and C ratings. In other words, use it strictly for aesthetics instead of trying to shoehorn in a new match mechanic. But who knows, maybe a workable solution is out there.
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Post by draygun072 on Aug 31, 2018 19:50:16 GMT -5
Online is the only place to get the suicide dive chart?
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Post by TTX on Aug 31, 2018 20:20:39 GMT -5
Check with TM....I'm certain it was a chart at some point somewhere.
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