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Post by Slymm on Dec 12, 2019 20:47:03 GMT -5
So I went to my storage unit and dug out all of my old COTG cards and came across Death Knight. Can't believe I never noticed the errors on his intro card. Can someone please help me get his card straight?
He's got an into the turnbuckle, into the ropes (c) and a deathjump (c), but no out of the ring.
His reverse knife-edge on L2O #5 is a - 3 (ch F)
He has a throat chop - 2 (ch C) after the deathjump at L3O #3
And he has 2 loaded glove - 3's. One on L2O at #6, and L3O at #5.
It's all out of whack. I'm sure it's been fixed since, I mean it's been 30+ years lol
Help me help Death Knight
*Note - It never dawned on me over all these years that he never, not once, threw his opponent out of the ring. Poor guy never had a chance in a Universal Battle Royal smh
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Post by TTX on Dec 12, 2019 20:54:24 GMT -5
The double loaded glove was a thing in the first set....Massif also had two head butts on his first card. Tom pretty much stopped that other than finishers after that.
the original cards had various oddities like that. His color card adjusted the wrong choices and his deathjump became an out of the ring.
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Post by Slymm on Dec 12, 2019 21:07:17 GMT -5
The double loaded glove was a thing in the first set....Massif also had two head butts on his first card. Tom pretty much stopped that other than finishers after that. the original cards had various oddities like that. His color card adjusted the wrong choices and his deathjump became an out of the ring. Are all of the color cards fixed? Because I just came across Renegade and he's got an into the turnbuckle and a (ch B), but no deathjump. Similar issue with Beast Rider who has a deathjump and a (ch H). But the craziest one that I can't believe I never noticed over the years was the biggest heel in the galaxy, Thantos, not having an out of the ring lol If the Online versions are fixed, I'll just re-buy them because these are all out of wack. Thanks for the info |
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Post by TTX on Dec 12, 2019 21:39:50 GMT -5
They are. The online redo should have it. Best to check with Tournament Master on the exacts.
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Post by Pete on Dec 12, 2019 21:53:46 GMT -5
Thantos (both versions) also has both into the ropes and into the turnbuckle with no (c) on Level 1 Offense, also impossible now. Tom told me at GCon when the card came out that he consciously kept that one, deciding that was part of Thantos' "gimmick" and made him a little more special.
The "certain choices being only either Level 2 or Level 3" was probably the last rule to be codified. I think even into the 2100's you would see a (ch G) or (ch D) on a Level 2 move. The exception being ch A and ch B, which have always only been on Level 2 moves on either L1O or L2O. The placement of deathjumps or ch G/H always preceding out of the ring was also relatively late in the process as well, IIRC.
A number of early cards don't follow the must-be-able-to-do-all-4 charts rule, though I think that was fixed no later than Invasion 2090 (with certain exceptions like Archon and Salvation who had no out of the ring because of their style).
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Post by DK II on Dec 12, 2019 22:33:35 GMT -5
With regards to Death Knight (the GREATEST GWF WRESTLER EVER!!!!), I always saw those multiple loaded gloves as his dedication to using a move he was good with and would hit as often as he could. Even though they were a little illegal, being loaded and all, but fit his character perfectly since his finisher was a running double fist. Soften your opponent up and then use your strength to finish the match! Perfect match psychology!
SOOOOOOO...
What non-Death Knight fans will tell you is that he wasn't a very good wrestler with limited skills...hence the reliance on basic moves using one part of his body in his matches. BUT that is just rubbish!!!
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Post by Pete on Dec 13, 2019 0:01:26 GMT -5
Death Knight: 2087's cooler-looking answer to Baron Mikel Scicluna. But then, maybe he just had to slow his game down knowing he was going to have to carry Omega's decrepit old ass to *1/2 each night around the horn.
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Post by TTX on Dec 13, 2019 7:02:23 GMT -5
I honestly thought the duplicate loaded glove was an easier one for double than Massif because you can just imagine him using it in various ways, straight punch, fist drop, claw hold, etc.
I like the Baron/Knight comparison. Makes me like DK even more.
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Post by Chad Olson on Dec 13, 2019 9:31:16 GMT -5
If the Online versions are fixed, I'll just re-buy them because these are all out of wack. Thanks for the info The printed color cards are also fixed. |
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