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Post by walkswithwolf on Mar 31, 2020 13:37:49 GMT -5
Probably the wrong Thread for that,but what do you think about the Juventud Guerrera Cards in Prime(just in Online?)
Im not that much of a fan to that weight class Thing.He is a big name in my opinion.And most of the Guys in the Game are above 220 lbs.
Just looked quickly but i think his JH Card is around 30 by Rahl
His other Card is below 20 against heavier Opponents.A bit weak?
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Post by TTX on Mar 31, 2020 15:25:56 GMT -5
outside of cruiserweights, Juventud (unlike say Rey) was never booked strong against anyone who weighed much more. Limited perhaps but also realistic.
However, once we get guys like Hodge and such, there's plenty of guys for him to face as well as several of the vintage ones when they come.
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Post by walkswithwolf on Mar 31, 2020 15:29:49 GMT -5
It's just difficult if you di booking by the regular Rankings in a Fed.
I always have Legends in Mind concerning that.
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Post by luke929 on Mar 31, 2020 15:35:59 GMT -5
Probably the wrong Thread for that,but what do you think about the Juventud Guerrera Cards in Prime(just in Online?) Im not that much of a fan to that weight class Thing.He is a big name in my opinion.And most of the Guys in the Game are above 220 lbs. Just looked quickly but i think his JH Card is around 30 by Rahl His other Card is below 20 against heavier Opponents.A bit weak? I actually love the weight class thing. I thought it was great with Tiger Mask and the other early Juniors... It gives an actual reason to have a Jr. heavyweight belt. |
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Post by TTX on Mar 31, 2020 15:55:49 GMT -5
If you want, just use his cruiserweight stats against all wrestlers.
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Post by Chad Olson on Mar 31, 2020 18:41:27 GMT -5
With Mildred Burke's ALLIGATOR CLUTCH finisher, we had it listed as a Boston Crab in the original handbook for her black and white card. As we researched her for this new color set, the ALLIGATOR CLUTCH was listed in multiple articles and some video clips as a cradle. It looks like a Thesz Press into a cradle, a more compact version of the move Colt Cabana does. The next day, I found a clip on Twitter from Catch Wrestling U (a great MMA/wrestling account) with a video clip of the original Boston Crab, which was similar to the rolling reverse cradle/O'Connor Roll move. That explains why we originally thought Burke's finisher was a modern Boston Crab.  |
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Post by tystates on Mar 31, 2020 18:46:05 GMT -5
With Mildred Burke's ALLIGATOR CLUTCH finisher, we had it listed as a Boston Crab in the original handbook for her black and white card. As we researched her for this new color set, the ALLIGATOR CLUTCH was listed in multiple articles and some video clips as a cradle. It looks like a Thesz Press into a cradle, a more compact version of the move Colt Cabana does. The next day, I found a clip on Twitter from Catch Wrestling U (a great MMA/wrestling account) with a video clip of the original Boston Crab, which was similar to the rolling reverse cradle/O'Connor Roll move. That explains why we originally thought Burke's finisher was a modern Boston Crab. So it's similar if not exactly the same as Kimber Lee's Alligator Clutch. At least that's how I thought it was. |
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Post by Chad Olson on Mar 31, 2020 19:08:41 GMT -5
With Mildred Burke's ALLIGATOR CLUTCH finisher, we had it listed as a Boston Crab in the original handbook for her black and white card. As we researched her for this new color set, the ALLIGATOR CLUTCH was listed in multiple articles and some video clips as a cradle. It looks like a Thesz Press into a cradle, a more compact version of the move Colt Cabana does. The next day, I found a clip on Twitter from Catch Wrestling U (a great MMA/wrestling account) with a video clip of the original Boston Crab, which was similar to the rolling reverse cradle/O'Connor Roll move. That explains why we originally thought Burke's finisher was a modern Boston Crab. So it's similar if not exactly the same as Kimber Lee's Alligator Clutch. At least that's how I thought it was. I looked Kimber Lee up on Youtube, it's the same move! |
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Post by Tournament Master on Mar 31, 2020 19:31:57 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think I heard on a podcast with Mike Quackenbush that he was on a show with Mae Young once where he asked her about the move, which apparently she learned from Burke, and she taught him the right way to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if Quack taught it to Kimber Lee when she was main eventing for Chikara.
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Post by Chad Olson on Mar 31, 2020 20:03:56 GMT -5
The info I was reading said that Burke taught it to Mae Young.
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