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Post by Sam Fain on Apr 2, 2021 23:55:11 GMT -5
I'd love to see The Hammer hit Kronos. Mike Fortune & Greg Valentine were a lot of fun for me in the GWF. They had a feud w the Code Enforcers over the IP tag belts that I’ll never forget. Mike & Greg in futuristic armor (like Avalanche is) on Kronos would be super cool and a special way of honoring both of them. I realize I'm a few days behind on this and playing catch-up, but I have to say I loved Fortune & Valentine in my GWF a lot of fun and such great utility guys I could plug in anywhere, plus some cool feuds to boot. Oddly enough, Prodigy and Valentine had a nice little series for me in 2109. Seeing them on Kronos... Yeah, I'm in!
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Post by walkswithwolf on Apr 3, 2021 2:11:42 GMT -5
Still remember these matches when the Managers did team up with their Wrestlers in Tagteam or Trios. Hoping to never ever have to come in the Ring 😏
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Post by Mike M on Apr 3, 2021 8:42:51 GMT -5
Serious question? What makes someone lean towards making a manager card w wrestling stats. If his role 99% of the time, is, as a mgr.? I realize there are standard manger charts out there, I just like the personalized stuff for the managers (Fuji Dust, Tennis Rackets, Heenan getting flung across the ring, Megaphones, etc.) The art on all 3 is really good. It's a great question. First off, the Legends Team put together the Manager Interference Chart, found in the EP II handbook, specifically for managers whose interference was more "generic" and who were known to wrestle with their charges. Think JJ Dillon, Johnny V, etc. Some managers are particularly notable and unique in HOW they interfere in a match or their success rate. You'll note that of the four guys that you referenced above (Fuji, Cornette, Heenan and Hart), three of them have individual charts and Fuji is the only one who did not. Honestly, that was the toughest one from my perspective, as the salt was a signature spot, but other than that his interference was very generic. He also wrestled a lot as a manager. Personally, I thought it was a borderline call. Whenever I bring Fuji into my LOW fed, I will substitute the salt spot for the results on rolls of 2, 3, 11 and 12 on the Manager Interference Chart. It can still be successful or backfire. Chad Olson, Cory Olson and TDalton may want to chime in with their thoughts. Who knows, maybe there's another Fuji card down the road with an interference mechanic. We could put it up to a vote sometime.
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Post by Cory Olson on Apr 3, 2021 11:30:14 GMT -5
Serious question? What makes someone lean towards making a manager card w wrestling stats. If his role 99% of the time, is, as a mgr.? I realize there are standard manger charts out there, I just like the personalized stuff for the managers (Fuji Dust, Tennis Rackets, Heenan getting flung across the ring, Megaphones, etc.) The art on all 3 is really good. It's a great question. First off, the Legends Team put together the Manager Interference Chart, found in the EP II handbook, specifically for managers whose interference was more "generic" and who were known to wrestle with their charges. Think JJ Dillon, Johnny V, etc. Some managers are particularly notable and unique in HOW they interfere in a match or their success rate. You'll note that of the four guys that you referenced above (Fuji, Cornette, Heenan and Hart), three of them have individual charts and Fuji is the only one who did not. Honestly, that was the toughest one from my perspective, as the salt was a signature spot, but other than that his interference was very generic. He also wrestled a lot as a manager. Personally, I thought it was a borderline call. Whenever I bring Fuji into my LOW fed, I will substitute the salt spot for the results on rolls of 2, 3, 11 and 12 on the Manager Interference Chart. It can still be successful or backfire. Chad Olson, Cory Olson and TDalton may want to chime in with their thoughts. Who knows, maybe there's another Fuji card down the road with an interference mechanic. We could put it up to a vote sometime. With Fuji specifically, remember he does have a special mechanic for using the salt on the Manager Interference Chart from EP II. Check the EP VI handbook, if you haven't noticed that. If you wanted to do a specific spot for Johnny V., like the cigar to the eye, you can do that on Rolls 2 and/or 3 of the generic Manager Interference Chart. Maybe Chad Olson or I can include that in Johnny's bio for the Promoter Prime bios he puts together in a Google Doc. To the best of my recollection, Johnny only did the cigar when Valentine and Beefcake won the belts from Windham and Rotunda. I don't really feel that that warrants a full separate interference chart, in my opinion.
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Post by walkswithwolf on Apr 3, 2021 12:22:41 GMT -5
That Salt is nothing more then a foreign Object to use.So in my opinion no need to write that down especially. We all know the devious Mr. Fujis likes 🙂
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Post by natureboi on Apr 4, 2021 0:39:54 GMT -5
If there's one thing I don't need, it's a second Fuji manager card. The Manager Inteference chart is ideal for him and for Johnny Vee, two guys who, while fondly remembered, are not in the pantheon of great managers. Just apply a little imagination to the chart results.
I'll gladly take a prime Fuji wrestler card if we also get Saito or Professor Tanaka. But too many worthwhile guys are still waiting to be colorized for the first time. I don't need more boutique versions of guys who already have color cards.
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Post by MHardcore on Apr 6, 2021 11:44:30 GMT -5
But too many worthwhile guys are still waiting to be colorized for the first time. I don't need more boutique versions of guys who already have color cards. This ⬆️⬆️⬆️
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Post by topdollar on Apr 14, 2021 13:53:52 GMT -5
Just got my cards today. Is Johnny Valiant's ASSISTED SPINNING NECKBREAKER the same thing as The Good Brothers' Magic Killer?
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Post by Slymm on Apr 14, 2021 20:49:03 GMT -5
It's a great question. First off, the Legends Team put together the Manager Interference Chart, found in the EP II handbook, specifically for managers whose interference was more "generic" and who were known to wrestle with their charges. Think JJ Dillon, Johnny V, etc. Some managers are particularly notable and unique in HOW they interfere in a match or their success rate. You'll note that of the four guys that you referenced above (Fuji, Cornette, Heenan and Hart), three of them have individual charts and Fuji is the only one who did not. Honestly, that was the toughest one from my perspective, as the salt was a signature spot, but other than that his interference was very generic. He also wrestled a lot as a manager. Personally, I thought it was a borderline call. Whenever I bring Fuji into my LOW fed, I will substitute the salt spot for the results on rolls of 2, 3, 11 and 12 on the Manager Interference Chart. It can still be successful or backfire. Chad Olson, Cory Olson and TDalton may want to chime in with their thoughts. Who knows, maybe there's another Fuji card down the road with an interference mechanic. We could put it up to a vote sometime. With Fuji specifically, remember he does have a special mechanic for using the salt on the Manager Interference Chart from EP II. Check the EP VI handbook, if you haven't noticed that. Thanks Cory I never even noticed that in the handbook. Great mechanic too.
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Post by Gunslinger on Apr 15, 2021 10:36:33 GMT -5
I was thinking this morning a contract signing mechanic on the back of a non-wrestling card might be interesting. 2-6 - bad things happen to wrestler 1, 7 - contract signing goes smoothly, everyone is disappointed, 8-12 bad things happen to wrestler 2.
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