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Post by canadianpittbull on Mar 23, 2009 8:49:25 GMT -5
No fictional characters for me, I want real wrestlers only. And I confess that I can have problems pitting wrestlers from different eras against each other. That's because eras have their differences. The vintage wrestlers were more towards mat wrestling with less colourful moves and probably a slow pace. The 1980s wrestlers were bigger and faster. The LOTF wrestlers are mostly smaller and faster still. It would be difficult to work with each other, I suppose. How? I see TONS of amazing storylines and some great angles (and have done some great angles) in which said styles clashed. Like when I had the Danny Hodge form his group of Shooters and Grapplers who were opposed to some of the more Hardcore wrestlers style and wanted the Hardcore title and Hardcore style matches out of my Maple Leaf fed. Steve Corino and a handful of the Hardcore or ECW alumni teamed together to create the Xtreme Four Horsemen to take on Danny Hodge and the Vintage guys. It culminated in a final series of matches where the teams would wrestle in each others styles. Until the big War Games match in which would decide if Hardcore stayed or was gone from Maple Leaf Wrestling. Danny Hodge and gang won the match and the next show took the Hardcore title and all the hardcore paraphernalia used in hardcore style matches and burned it all in a steel drum in the middle of the ring. Since that day there are no Hardcore sanctioned matches or a title in Maple Leaf Wrestling. Not hard at all. Again you are only limited by your own imagination. Like Sonjay Dutt says..."Free you Mind". |
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Post by crimsoncross on Mar 23, 2009 8:53:37 GMT -5
I think you have to get past the realism of time factor, make it you own World and don't figure in time...
I took a wrestler like Iron Mike DiBiase and turned him into a version of the Crow Sting called the DOVe, the Desciple of Vengeance and it was a very cool way to bring life into this real life person.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Mar 23, 2009 9:08:58 GMT -5
I think you have to get past the realism of time factor, make it you own World and don't figure in time... I took a wrestler like Iron Mike DiBiase and turned him into a version of the Crow Sting called the DOVe, the Desciple of Vengeance and it was a very cool way to bring life into this real life person. That is an AMAZING angle Crimson! I like that a lot! |
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Post by pressslam on Mar 23, 2009 10:32:40 GMT -5
This isn't a right or wrong answer. I can't turn around to you Canadian Pitbull and say that Rick Rude could never be a face and to make him so is stupid. If it works for you then by all means work with it.
For me however, to my knowledge Rude was always a heel in real life and my main years watching wrestling was when he was one of the top heels. The memories and association I have of him are strongly heel, to have him as anything else isn't impossible, but hard to visualise, especially if you have little time to play. By that I mean you don't have enough momentum to create a new association.
With matching wrestlers from different eras I actually it find a lot easier and don't really have a problem with that. What Legends misses is a new injection of wrestlers coming in at least once a year and it would be more interesting if wrestlers were going through a career cycle. That way you could see changes and things wouldn't get so stale. There would be more potential for twists and turns, power struggles etc.
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Post by wildfire on Mar 23, 2009 10:58:22 GMT -5
I don't think I'd personally use fictional, 'realistic' wrestlers, just because real wrestlers are available. I think it would be VERY hard (if not impossible) to make such a set and not have people say 'that's HHH' or 'That's Flair', etc.
Why use Gary 'Hulk' Logan when the REAL Hulk Hogan is available? Perhaps 5 years ago, before Legends, this would make sense, but
now, with so many good official cards, and even more good bootlegs, I just can't see the appeal.
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Post by kingwiththeax on Mar 23, 2009 13:41:45 GMT -5
To me it just seems goofy. I like LOW because I can make my own stories, and create my own magic so to speak. I can correct stuff that I felt was misbooked in real life, and explore feuds I wanted to see happen. I like doing out of the ordinary stuff, like having Buddy Rogers feud with The Sandman. I think the old school guys are easier to use then the newer guys. The Sandman is a beer drinking, foul mouthed, smoking SOB (awesome ;D). But guys like Frank Gotch, a great wrestler way before my time, can be used anyway I want. The old wrestlers aren't "typecast" like the newer guys are IMO. Just so many more directions you can go with guys that don't have a distinct angle that is hard to overcome.
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Post by pressslam on Mar 23, 2009 14:17:06 GMT -5
It seems this idea has been bodyslammed through the nearest table!
Maybe it was wrong to suggest the title as being an 'Alternative' to legends. It might have made more sense to put this thread in COTG Misc.
The idea was more intended for those who don't go for the sci-fi yet like the other aspects which come with the GWF storyline/character timeline factors.
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Post by pressslam on Mar 23, 2009 14:25:07 GMT -5
I prefer the the likes of Hackenschmidt and Gotch to be totally honest. I really hope we can land more like them.
One wrestler FG should go for is better known as a strongman, his name is Artur Saxon, look him up on Google.
Also I've been told informally that Bert Assirati can just be used, there are no contacts to give the ok. It's a risk but I'm pretty sure it would be ok.
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Post by wildfire on Mar 23, 2009 15:23:18 GMT -5
It seems this idea has been bodyslammed through the nearest table! Maybe it was wrong to suggest the title as being an 'Alternative' to legends. It might have made more sense to put this thread in COTG Misc. The idea was more intended for those who don't go for the sci-fi yet like the other aspects which come with the GWF storyline/character timeline factors. I'm not sure you could have a CoTG set without the Sci-Fi elements... you could definately create a fed that is all humans... but if you don't include other races/planets/etc it wouldn't really be in the CoTG universe.... Well, maybe you could do an Earth-only fed set 20 or 30 years before the GWF is founded... that might work. Just thinking out loud, really. |
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Post by TTX on Mar 23, 2009 16:08:30 GMT -5
There's lots of vintage guys who would be great to have and some should be avaialable one way or another.
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