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Post by wayne on Aug 5, 2021 11:12:59 GMT -5
Hi all
I wondered how people approach the rule on 'a wrestler loses once pinned 3 times'. Say a wrestler is pinned or submits at what level do you start the next 'fall'. I know it's not really first to 3 falls match but just a way of representing when a wrestler more or less collapses. Would you just carry on rolling at L3O after a succesful pin for the wrestler in control or maybe go up 1 level after that?
Sorry hard to explain
Cheers, Wayne
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Post by TTX on Aug 5, 2021 11:18:15 GMT -5
Level 2.
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Post by wayne on Aug 5, 2021 11:38:46 GMT -5
Thanks, that's what I had been doing on the rare occasions I book them. I know it's up to the promoter but it's good to see what the majority do
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Post by TDalton on Aug 5, 2021 14:15:30 GMT -5
I always assumed that since this isn't really a multiple fall contest, that the wrestler who got the "pin" just continues to beat on his opponent at Level 3 Offense.
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Post by mystmotone101 on Aug 5, 2021 14:23:18 GMT -5
I actually thought they were supposed to roll their pin three times in a row.
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Post by Swarm on Aug 5, 2021 14:37:26 GMT -5
I think that’s how we did it at GCON to keep things somewhat fair. The official rule is level 3 based on how the rules are written. Or at least that’s how’s I’ve always interpreted it. “The first wrestler pinned 3 times.” So if a guy is pinned you just continue the match. And like after any PIN attempt you roll on L3O.
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Post by Pete on Aug 5, 2021 15:29:01 GMT -5
I'm with Rob and Tim on this. The pin is treated as a glorified "down - 3."
Hint, hint: this is the kind of thing that could be clarified in the upcoming Ringside Companion.
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Post by Swarm on Aug 6, 2021 6:24:40 GMT -5
I'm with Rob and Tim on this. The pin is treated as a glorified "down - 3." Hint, hint: this is the kind of thing that could be clarified in the upcoming Ringside Companion. Sometimes in my fed results I’ll note a (3-0) victory for say Wolf who beat Paralyze in the TC recently. I do this strictly for readers to see how dominant (or if it’s 3-2) close the match was. But I don’t count it like falls. I can see how that could be confusing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 7:35:00 GMT -5
I actually thought they were supposed to roll their pin three times in a row. This is how I use the rule now, though I don't use it for Torture Chamber matches. I have adapted the Torture Chamber rules for cage matches after I had several cage matches end in three minutes (or less) due to someone's lucky die rolls. The way I see it, the first PIN is to show you have your opponent down and are heading towards escape, the second represents you making it to the cage door or up the cage wall, and the final PIN is you coming down the cage (or out the door) and planting your feet on the arena floor. At any point, the opponent could grab your leg, or catch up to you and prevent your escape, etc. My cage matches have become much longer (eighteen minutes at a minimum) and bloodier affairs, which has turned them into the feud-ender I want them to be.
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Post by Cory Olson on Aug 6, 2021 9:23:44 GMT -5
I always assumed that since this isn't really a multiple fall contest, that the wrestler who got the "pin" just continues to beat on his opponent at Level 3 Offense. Until Tim pointed this out to me one year at a Galacticon, I had always interpreted the Torture Chamber as more of a 3-out-of-5 Falls Match, so I would start both guys rolling for initiative after every successful pin. But after rereading the description in the Invasion handbook, I see that wasn't really the intent. I would agree with Tim's rule. I didn't run the Torture Chamber a lot but in my write-ups, I portrayed it as 3-out-of-5. If I were do it again, I would follow the intended way. I'm with Rob and Tim on this. The pin is treated as a glorified "down - 3." Hint, hint: this is the kind of thing that could be clarified in the upcoming Ringside Companion. Great hint, Pete!
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