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Post by Cory Olson on Sept 22, 2022 8:05:44 GMT -5
Years ago, when Tom first made separate interference charts for wrestlers, managers, and gangs, I really thought it was a waste. I was always of the mindset that you just improvise the situation depending on who's interfering. This goes back to early COTG days and Solaris rolling a "9" on the interference chart and hitting a top rope elbow for an automatic DQ. I don't mind having the different charts now, as I do like the various possible outcomes. Even with the different charts, I still modify the situations depending on who's interfering and making it apply more to that person's style or personality. With COTG, I can see having charts for certain characters who would never wrestle. But for LOW, so many of the managers wrestled at some point that I would go for wrestling stats before a personalized interference chart and then just use the Manager Interference Chart. Just my thoughts.
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Post by on_the_edge on Sept 22, 2022 17:48:01 GMT -5
I am much the same way. I like the different charts as it give variety to keep things from getting stale. I can create my own ideas, and often do, but having a base to go off helps especially when not in as creative a mood. I feel one needs some creativity even if using a chart as you can roll the same result multiple times and it gets repetitive. That is when one's creative juices can get flowing and come up with different variations of the outcome they rolled.
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Post by throwingtoasters on Sept 22, 2022 18:06:18 GMT -5
Here’s how I use them. Wrestler Interference Chart - Wrestlers, some managers with wrestling stats depending on their perceived (by me) level of fitness. Manager Interference - Managers with charts (that allow for a roll here), Women Wrestlers Group/Gang Interference - Groups and Gangs of wrestler
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Post by mystmotone101 on Sept 22, 2022 22:46:02 GMT -5
If you're looking for Manager Interference and Gang Interference, they're actually in the Legends of Wrestling Expansion 2 handbook.
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Post by Pete on Sept 23, 2022 18:59:46 GMT -5
One thing about personalized manager interference charts is that I wonder how much more personalized they can get, you know?
Now, some guys really never did wrestle, and we're not doing blank backs anymore, so I get it. But generally there are just so many ways of doing a chart where, like, rolls 2-6 are decreasingly good for the manager's client, 7-8 is like an odd-even roll, and 9-12 are greater stages of disaster for the client and manager. At this point I'm almost more interested in coming up with a chart for someone like, say, Paul Bearer and his urn, which is at least a unique way of affecting a match.
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Post by Travis605 on Sept 23, 2022 19:22:39 GMT -5
One thing about personalized manager interference charts is that I wonder how much more personalized they can get, you know? Now, some guys really never did wrestle, and we're not doing blank backs anymore, so I get it. But generally there are just so many ways of doing a chart where, like, rolls 2-6 are decreasingly good for the manager's client, 7-8 is like an odd-even roll, and 9-12 are greater stages of disaster for the client and manager. At this point I'm almost more interested in coming up with a chart for someone like, say, Paul Bearer and his urn, which is at least a unique way of affecting a match. If a manager did some wrestling, I'd rather see wrestling stats and maybe have a manager chart in the handbook. I think it's a good compromise.
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Post by lankylefty17 on Sept 23, 2022 21:34:12 GMT -5
Im a big fan of the personalized manager charts for guys that will mostly be used to manage. Cornette/Hart wrestling alt cards are fun, but I very much prefer the manager chart on the card as opposed to in a handbook I have to pull out and reference constantly…
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Post by on_the_edge on Sept 23, 2022 21:45:07 GMT -5
One thing about personalized manager interference charts is that I wonder how much more personalized they can get, you know? Now, some guys really never did wrestle, and we're not doing blank backs anymore, so I get it. But generally there are just so many ways of doing a chart where, like, rolls 2-6 are decreasingly good for the manager's client, 7-8 is like an odd-even roll, and 9-12 are greater stages of disaster for the client and manager. At this point I'm almost more interested in coming up with a chart for someone like, say, Paul Bearer and his urn, which is at least a unique way of affecting a match. To me it is about the individual manager. Like Mr. Fuji having one of the rolls on his chart involve salt in the eye would make sense. Just like Bobby Heenan faking an injury as a face grabs him leading to the referee reprimanding the face which allows Heenan's man to get the upper hand would too.
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Post by natureboi on Sept 23, 2022 22:18:24 GMT -5
I think if you have a manager who was typically dragged into a tag match involving his clients for the express purpose of being the weak link/fall guy, it's preferable to have the wrestler stats over an individualized interference chart. Otherwise you need two cards, as with Cornette.
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Post by tornado on Sept 25, 2022 18:43:48 GMT -5
Everybody plays differently, so it always depends on the individual. I have never liked when managers wrestle, so I never book those matches. I’d much rather have personalized charts, but I understand why some people would rather wrestling stats. The distractor rating always just falls flat for me.
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