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Post by amazingbadger on Oct 12, 2009 22:01:58 GMT -5
Well then, Star Warrior's first title shot shall come in March at the Ides of March Supercard. The only question now is, who does Thantos defend against in February? Why Beast Rider of course! That's actually a consideration, since taking an easy title defence would definetly be Thantos' style. Maybe pull something like Austin Aries' Lucky Lottery in ROH where Thantos randomly pulls a wrestler's name out of a hat and gets an easy title defence thereby. Of course the difference would be that somebody, likely Wolf so as to continue his issues with Thantos, discovers that only low ranked wrestlers had their names in the hat.
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Post by wildfire on Oct 16, 2009 8:23:12 GMT -5
That carries a lot of potential downside! At this stage SW is the equivalent of a well built challenger. He's pinned the Champion twice so his credibility as a challenger is solidly established. Having Star Warrior fight through the cronies in singles matches carries a high risk to low reward ratio. In terms of risk (and assuming the dice call the shot) if SW loses one (or more) lead in matches it would disturb the very aura that is the prime selling point of the Thantos/Star Warrior Main Event at the Supercard. It would be like Andre The Giant getting pinned by Jake Roberts before WM 3. Not good. On the flip side if SW runs through a steady stream of Thantos' henchmen (Exo-King, Executioner, etc) in singles matches a few weeks 'before' he wins the title, you've just hot shotted what could have been lucrative title programs should SW win the belt. The fans will have already been there & done that without the belt on the line. That's a needlessly hard sell. Vince Russo was famous for doing the later type of 'burn through the candle' booking in WCW. The worst was with what should have been a lucrative championship run by Goldberg. Instead of methodically building multi-match PPV programs (vs Bigelow, Sting, Steiner, Booker T) it was a constant stream of one night hot shot singles matches on Nitro. Run-ins and screw jobs replaced well tiered builds with concrete pay offs and the decline in ratings and buy rates coincided. I'm not sure I'd consider Exo-King or Executioner Main Eventers (even in 2087) unless they're really doing well for you... You do have a point, but I think there's enough talent to feed a couple guys to Star Warrior to build him up and not run out of heels on the roster.. especially once 2088 comes around.
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Post by LWPD on Oct 16, 2009 18:03:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd consider Exo-King or Executioner Main Eventers (even in 2087) unless they're really doing well for you... You do have a point, but I think there's enough talent to feed a couple guys to Star Warrior to build him up and not run out of heels on the roster.. especially once 2088 comes around. Putting aside the casino aspect of how your approach would risk money that's already on the table (which is a clear no-go in my view, you should always do everything possible to ensure a return on the creative capital you've already invested when the payoff is near term) if I stretched I could somewhat see the logic in your line of thinking if the time frame was in late November or December. Yet the context is in February. That's quite a while until 2088 turns over with an influx of fresh new talent options. At this stage Star Warrior has already been effectively built. By pinning Thantos twice he's a made challenger and the credibility build is of gold standard. Smart booking protects the creative that has already been established leading into the payoff while ensuring ample latitude going forward pending a title change. At this point it's a matter of finding safe ways to add more sizzle to the steak without over/under heating. Why risk burning the main course or ruining desert options when you can just safely add some garnish and ensure cashing in on a great meal? Working with a roster of 24 is a tough challenge...and it can become progressively more difficult the more someone plays out the game year. It's not easy to be disciplined, book selectively and avoid the trap of burning through your programs too quickly. At worst the creative can start to morph into an endless stream of deja vu moments as paying fans across the circuit start to impersonate ever growing rows of empty seats! Then again it's ultimately all in the eye of the beholder!
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Post by roninnoir on Oct 16, 2009 22:54:08 GMT -5
Who are your tag champions and their prime challengers?
Assuming, for instance, The Gladiators are your tag champs, and the Greek Gods as the top contenders, put Star Warrior & The Greek Gods against Thantos & The Gladiators in February.
Alternately, have Thantos get The Gladiators to "take Star Warrior out" in February, and put him against Brute and Massacre with one of the FDF as his partner. Meanwhile, Thantos can either take it easy by giving a "deserving Legend" a title shot, like Omega, or put him against someone like Wolf or Lord Nexus, maybe in a two out of three falls match with interference to help ensure a DQ, and use the old rule that if one fall ends in a DQ the title cannot change hands.
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Post by amazingbadger on Oct 20, 2009 23:35:37 GMT -5
The Gladiators are the champs at the moment and they're pretty dedicated to keeping their hands on the tag titles and eliminating Wolf, as well as feuding with the Greeks. The six man tag match has potential though, since it could be the result of the championship comitee putting a match together, as opposed to something Thantos or the Glads want.
At this point Thantos or the Glads are on good terms with each other in my fed. That will change of course when 2091 and War Games but it will be a gradual thing I think.
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Post by roninnoir on Oct 21, 2009 19:05:52 GMT -5
Oooh...dream match for February...you can even make it a non-title: Gladiators attack Star Warrior at the request of Thantos, Wolf makes the save...match writes itself.
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Post by amazingbadger on Nov 25, 2009 1:20:50 GMT -5
I've decided to have Thantos defend the title against Omega. This way Thantos gets a relatively easy title defence and it adds more heat to the feud since Thantos is beating up Star Warrior's dad. Plus you could have Death Knight interfering on the outside, thus furthering that feud.
As an added bonus, if Omega does somehow manage to pull out the title victory I can run with Omega defending the title against Star Warrior. Father vs son, with Thantos looking to worm his way into the match somehow.
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Post by kveiceman on Dec 18, 2009 20:48:56 GMT -5
That is a good spin and I like the way you have it set for a possible father son match.
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Post by Cernunnos on Jan 31, 2010 23:57:31 GMT -5
That carries a lot of potential downside! At this stage SW is the equivalent of a well built challenger. He's pinned the Champion twice so his credibility as a challenger is solidly established. Having Star Warrior fight through the cronies in singles matches carries a high risk to low reward ratio. In terms of risk (and assuming the dice call the shot) if SW loses one (or more) lead in matches it would disturb the very aura that is the prime selling point of the Thantos/Star Warrior Main Event at the Supercard. It would be like Andre The Giant getting pinned by Jake Roberts before WM 3. Not good. On the flip side if SW runs through a steady stream of Thantos' henchmen (Exo-King, Executioner, etc) in singles matches a few weeks 'before' he wins the title, you've just hot shotted what could have been lucrative title programs should SW win the belt. The fans will have already been there & done that without the belt on the line. That's a needlessly hard sell. Vince Russo was famous for doing the later type of 'burn through the candle' booking in WCW. The worst was with what should have been a lucrative championship run by Goldberg. Instead of methodically building multi-match PPV programs (vs Bigelow, Sting, Steiner, Booker T) it was a constant stream of one night hot shot singles matches on Nitro. Run-ins and screw jobs replaced well tiered builds with concrete pay offs and the decline in ratings and buy rates coincided. I'm not sure I'd consider Exo-King or Executioner Main Eventers (even in 2087) filsingergames.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fed&action=display&thread=4142
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