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Post by ultimatecotg on May 10, 2008 14:18:21 GMT -5
Hey guys I need to make an executive final decision shortly here on the Cruiserweight title. I dont want to sit on a fence, I want a final answer and stick to the final answer ...
Cruiserweight division, what do you guys go by? I always heard 240 lbs, but I see some people have Incredible Badger as champion. So am I to assume some people go 245 lbs? If so is 245 a good place to pick or are you guys says that 245 has just cause to lose the weight (like judgement call, Badger is 243 officially but could lose the pounds and be a cruiserweight?
What do you guys do?
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Post by pressslam on May 10, 2008 15:08:35 GMT -5
I'm soon to get started simultaneously on my LWF and GWF feds and this is something I'd like to see cleared up as I'm not sure either.
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Post by ultimatecotg on May 10, 2008 15:18:56 GMT -5
How about a cruiserweight or even weight chart on the webpage?
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Post by Sickman on May 11, 2008 8:36:53 GMT -5
In terms of Legends I would say not more than 230LBS.
If you think about guys in the future being bigger, stronger and faster than maybe a higher weight would be acceptable. Even as high as 250LBS
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Post by pressslam on May 11, 2008 12:05:38 GMT -5
That's a good point sickman. I thought that 240-5lbs sounded a little high but it makes sense in that context.
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Post by Vegas on May 11, 2008 14:02:33 GMT -5
I'm soon to get started simultaneously on my LWF and GWF feds and this is something I'd like to see cleared up as I'm not sure either. Well the book for Legends of the Future, which included the very first LOW wrestler Danny Hodge to have stats both for wrestling against other junior heavyweights and for wrestling against non junior heavyweights, says it's up to you to determine the weight limit for the junior heavyweight/cruiserweight division in your fed as this weight limit was often different anyway depending on what wrestling territory you went to. Once July arrives and I can return to playing my LOW fed full time in real time (my last card the Great American Bash took place on July 1), one of the very first things I'm going to do is introduce a Cruiserweight division and championship. And I agree with Sickman that 230 lbs will probably be the weight limit for my division. Buff Bagwell's weight on his card is 235 lbs. Do you see Bagwell as a cruiserweight? If so then perhaps make 235 lbs your weight limit. If not then perhaps cut off the weight limit at 230 lbs with the possible exception that guys over the weight limit might qualify if they lose a few pounds. In my GWF fed, I no longer use the Cruiserweight Championship but when I did 240 lbs was the weight limit I used for that division.
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Post by Ringsyde on May 11, 2008 14:12:47 GMT -5
I tend to echo reality; that is to say that I base my weight divisions on WWE, WCW, Japan and other sources.
Bret Hart and Ric Flair both wrestled at between 238-250lbs for a good deal of their careers, and I personally never envisioned either of them as a cruiserweight.
My Cruiserweight division was capped at 235lbs. I think that anything bigger gives you something more than a cruiserweight.
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Post by j on May 13, 2008 6:44:25 GMT -5
I use 240lbs for GWF/CPC. Also use 240lbs in LOW but many guys I don't use a cruiserweights (Buddy Rogers, Frank Gotch, and maybe a few others who are Heavyweight title contenders)
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Post by chewey on May 13, 2008 13:13:13 GMT -5
I know you said you wanted a clear answer to stick with, but I think there is room to reconsider this in certain situations.
In reality, people do cut weight to make weight, and a wrestler that weighs 243 llbs could very easily drop down to 240 by not eating for a day and running on the treadmill. I mean, even Brock Lesnar managed to drop down to 265 llbs for the UFC (even though I'm sure he didn't weigh 265 llbs at the time of the fight, after the weigh-in.)
So I would encourage you to stick with clearly defined weight classes, but also keep in mind that weights always fluctuate, if you want to play most realistically.
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Post by j on May 13, 2008 14:53:03 GMT -5
I remember some time back that someone here used a 240lb cutoff but someone up to 245lbs could try and cut weight. They rolled to see if he was successful (ex. even = cut weight, odd = failed to cut) I think Matt Hardy did this on Smackdown a few years ago when he was fighting for the cruiserweight title and more recently the Dudleyz had to make weight to wrestle for TNA.
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