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Post by Crimson Cross on Aug 23, 2011 8:42:40 GMT -5
Not a bad Raw at all, I really liked how they've built from last weeks Subway schtick with the Miz & Jared to this weeks pairing of the Miz & R-Truth, a very entertaining segment...
I also like the build up between Nash & Punk and ADR & Cena, I think both feuds are going well and I agree they will need to unveil who texted Nash before the ppv in my view or at the ppv...
It's good to see Kingston & Bourne as the Tag Champs, it really looks like the WWE are on the path to making the Tag Team Division relevant again and that's a Great thing...
The Kelly Kelly topic is simple, the spotlight is on her as she is the WWE Diva Champion and they are building up Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly at NoC, which is not official but it was reported since Beth is from Buffalo they may book that match...
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Post by marktaggart on Aug 23, 2011 9:10:34 GMT -5
. The Kelly Kelly topic is simple, the spotlight is on her as she is the WWE Diva Champion and they are building up Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly at NoC, which is not official but it was reported since Beth is from Buffalo they may book that match... That's not what I mean. What I'm writing is that she came out like it was HER introduction and stepped all over Eve's spotlight by throwing the belt up in the air and acting like they called her name instead of Eve. It was just a clueless type of move, nothing she did on purpose, but it did come off as sort of rude. When it is another wrestler's match a corner person should step back and let them have their intro. If Cena had done that he'd never hear the end of it. Since it was a diva not many people paid attention. I tend to pay attention because, well-----girls AREN'T "ick" as some would lead you to believe.
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Post by swarm on Aug 23, 2011 9:13:00 GMT -5
I really hate what they've done to CM Punk. They had the coolest new character in all of wrestling as hot as he could be and they've turned him into company face no.2 behind Cena. Cena complimenting Punk, showing him respect etc...makes me sick. PEOPLE HATE JOHN CENA. Cena being buddy-buddy with Punk doesn't make Punk more popular, it makes him look less dangerous.
Please God tell me they are NOT giving us Nash vs. Punk. Nash is a great accomplice. A great second to -- not a guy I want to see wrestling the best wrestler in the world. The way CM Punk transitioned from total bad ass to total retard in 2 seconds, getting distracted by Kevin Nash, slowly walking down the ramp, on a mic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CM Punk had time to hit his finisher TWICE on Cena in the time it takes for Nash to get to the ring. But no, CM Punk falls victim to shit WWE writing, gets distracted and stands around for 2 full minutes like a freaking dummy, allowing Cena to get the pin.
Right there, you lost me.
Way to kill the CM Punk character. Brave, noble, dangerous, unafraid to speak his mind, has the WWE by the balls, best wrestler in the world, a champion, focused on the title -- all of a sudden becomes 200 lbs. of stupid, distracted with a guy who isn't a wrestler, who can't walk, just because he's talking in the mic from 100 yards away.
F THAT.
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Post by swarm on Aug 23, 2011 9:16:01 GMT -5
. The Kelly Kelly topic is simple, the spotlight is on her as she is the WWE Diva Champion and they are building up Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly at NoC, which is not official but it was reported since Beth is from Buffalo they may book that match... That's not what I mean. What I'm writing is that she came out like it was HER introduction and stepped all over Eve's spotlight by throwing the belt up in the air and acting like they called her name instead of Eve. It was just a clueless type of move, nothing she did on purpose, but it did come off as sort of rude. When it is another wrestler's match a corner person should step back and let them have their intro. If Cena had done that he'd never hear the end of it. Since it was a diva not many people paid attention. I tend to pay attention because, well-----girls AREN'T "ick" as some would lead you to believe. I'm 100% confident kelly kelly did nothing wrong, as just as she was told. Eve was in the match but Kelly Kelly is the one they are trying to get over. Eve is just a secondary character in this, not the focus (at all). She's like a walking prop. Kelly Kelly is the hero champion. Kelly Kelly is the one these segments are building to a match with, not Eve. She's supposed to do all those things. If you still have a problem with it you should complain about the writing, not Kelly. Like I said, I'm sure she was just doing as she was told.
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Post by Crimson Cross on Aug 23, 2011 9:36:31 GMT -5
That's not what I mean. What I'm writing is that she came out like it was HER introduction and stepped all over Eve's spotlight by throwing the belt up in the air and acting like they called her name instead of Eve. It was just a clueless type of move, nothing she did on purpose, but it did come off as sort of rude. When it is another wrestler's match a corner person should step back and let them have their intro. If Cena had done that he'd never hear the end of it. Since it was a diva not many people paid attention. I tend to pay attention because, well-----girls AREN'T "ick" as some would lead you to believe. I'm 100% confident kelly kelly did nothing wrong, as just as she was told. Eve was in the match but Kelly Kelly is the one they are trying to get over. Eve is just a secondary character in this, not the focus (at all). She's like a walking prop. Kelly Kelly is the hero champion. Kelly Kelly is the one these segments are building to a match with, not Eve. She's supposed to do all those things. If you still have a problem with it you should complain about the writing, not Kelly. Like I said, I'm sure she was just doing as she was told. ^ This, that's why I had no issue because I'm sure the WWE wrote it for her ( Kelly Kelly ) to come out and be the focal point and not Eve, infact maybe we'll see a split between the two friends of Kelly Kelly & Eve over Kelly's actions down the road...
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Post by Phoenix on Aug 23, 2011 10:14:20 GMT -5
Yeah i noticed the Kelly thing too. Not sure it was much of anything. I still think WWE trying to force Natalya and Beth as heels is kind of silly-for this reason: They don't need to be. Do you really think they need to cheap shot Kelly Kelly? Seriously. Either one of them could flatten her in 10 seconds. And the crowds don't seem to be hating them either. R-Truth with Miz..well i'm kind of worried that Truth, who was so hot, is going to end up as the Miz's sidekick. Swagger's loss looked rediculous. There was plenty of time between him outside the ring and when he got hit. Didn't look like a good 'distraction' to me. And Vicki's been planning to manage him for a week.....but Dolph doesn't catch up to her till she's at ringside....again storylines for 8 year olds. Yeah.. Nash is facing Punk . You know. Then probably HHH. At least he got one thing right. He won the title at SS, but here's supercena demanding another title shot. At least Punk was hot all night. You know what they should do, since they won't turn Cena heel. Have it like he's been protected all these years, by McMahon, HHH, Lauranitis, that he's the Corporate Champion, and doesn't even know it. Then there's Del Rio. Unfortunately with the hot-Punk storyline the WWE Champion almost seems lost in the mix. One last thing, RAW was coming on, i turned up the volume....then i hear Cole's voice aaaargh *&@%$!
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Post by havoc on Aug 23, 2011 11:11:03 GMT -5
I tend to pay attention because, well-----girls AREN'T "ick" as some would lead you to believe. The WWE women's division is ick, or meh, or blah. Whatever you want to use to signify boring. I look to see them look hot and then it's time to make a sandwich. If I want to watch botched moves I'll put on a Smackdown DVR of Original Sin Cara.
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Post by marktaggart on Aug 23, 2011 21:04:07 GMT -5
I'm 100% confident kelly kelly did nothing wrong, as just as she was told. Eve was in the match but Kelly Kelly is the one they are trying to get over. Eve is just a secondary character in this, not the focus (at all). She's like a walking prop. Kelly Kelly is the hero champion. Kelly Kelly is the one these segments are building to a match with, not Eve. She's supposed to do all those things. If you still have a problem with it you should complain about the writing, not Kelly. Like I said, I'm sure she was just doing as she was told. I wasn't really insinuating she did anything intentionally wrong. However, I know the WWE is not scripting "walk out beside Eve, smile, hold up belt, and pose and point at fans". It's just that she's not used to being the second/corner person and came out like it was her intro. THAT WRITTEN, I just looked back at the match a few seconds ago (since I will take the opportunity to check out Nikki Bella any time) and it was NOT as bad in hindsight as it seemed at the time. Hey, I was probably just focusing on her more than Eve so that's why I noticed it.
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Post by miamidrew on Aug 24, 2011 0:32:55 GMT -5
1) I'm still not sold on ADR every time I begin to like him he starts talking and says the same dry ish every time. My name is and I am the wwe champion... His matches it seems like he tries to block a lot and he doesn't fall natural to me. He's stiff, but it seems he opening up his arsenal still not ready to be the champion but nowadays u get a title in ur 1st year n the wwe. No more hill to climb.
2)i only watch diva matches to see eve do the booty pop and I got a thing for Natalya & the Bella twins so if they aren't n the match ff
3) I like the punk angle, they are going to add someone to the stable of ace & Nash. Noc is still 4 weeks away. I liked that they tricked everybody into thinking Nash was n an accident I just hated how the distraction played out. Nash should've ran to the ring and/or not spoken until he was close.
4) cena sucks, his mic skills need work, ring work is good though
5) I didn't like r truth's new gimmick at first because it was coming off a lil like a stereotype to me at first but I love it now. Miz is growing on me as well.
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