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Post by Vidtek on Dec 6, 2011 0:06:39 GMT -5
I'm with Floyd.
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Post by marktaggart on Dec 6, 2011 8:32:20 GMT -5
To me, it's real simple: a guy performed a heinous act. No matter how famous he was, you didn't know him and couldn't. No matter how much analyzing anyone does, they will never know why. You can blame anything you want, at the end of the day the man did what he did and all the conjecture doesn't matter. It wouldn't matter if he was a famous wrestler or the guy down the block; my reaction would be exactly the same. You don't need to try to understand, because you really can't. If that's how people choose to cope, let them do it on your own and it's not my business. If someone wishes to profit from these types of acts, then they should not try to pass off their motives as altruistic or investigative. They're just making money off of the ghoulish fascination surrounding the incident and claiming higher motives to take the stink off. If they care so much, let them donate 100-percent of the profits to brain research.
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Post by Justin Case on Dec 6, 2011 17:17:16 GMT -5
I don't know if I would choose the word "evil" like Floyd has to try and describe what Benoit did. To me, the word evil almost sounds like what he did was intentional and that he had it all planned out to carry out what he did?! I'm not really sure he did that, planned it out I mean. To me, Benoit just made a big mistake and didn't think of the consequences of his actions and what "might happen if I do this..." sort of scenario. I'd hardly classify him as "evil" though.
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Post by havoc on Dec 6, 2011 18:54:44 GMT -5
To me, Benoit just made a big mistake Oops, killed my family. Shucks.  |
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Post by swarm on Dec 6, 2011 19:09:08 GMT -5
I don't know if I would choose the word "evil" like Floyd has to try and describe what Benoit did. To me, the word evil almost sounds like what he did was intentional and that he had it all planned out to carry out what he did?!. That's exactly what he did though. The killings were well planned and premeditating. He took careful steps to kill his son, his wife and then himself. He left a bible near each body. Shit, we all know the deets. None of those things point to a mistake. I realize people have their heroes and it can be hard to believe someone you thought so much of could be a total son of a bitch, but we see it every day. Tiger Woods, Chris Benoit, Joe Paterno and tons others are not our friends. You don't know them. You can't sit here and realistically say Benoit wasn't evil because he was a work rate horse. Dude beat his wife for years. Then he murdered her. Then he killed his kid. Dude was a total prick psycho with a history of violence against his wife. Then one day he finished the job. End of story. |
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Post by Sickman on Dec 6, 2011 19:19:42 GMT -5
To me, it's real simple: a guy performed a heinous act. No matter how famous he was, you didn't know him and couldn't. No matter how much analyzing anyone does, they will never know why. You can blame anything you want, at the end of the day the man did what he did and all the conjecture doesn't matter. It wouldn't matter if he was a famous wrestler or the guy down the block; my reaction would be exactly the same. You don't need to try to understand, because you really can't. If that's how people choose to cope, let them do it on your own and it's not my business. If someone wishes to profit from these types of acts, then they should not try to pass off their motives as altruistic or investigative. They're just making money off of the ghoulish fascination surrounding the incident and claiming higher motives to take the stink off. If they care so much, let them donate 100-percent of the profits to brain research. This pretty much sums up my feelings. I'll go even further in bringing up that it is entirely possible that Benoit's demons were within him the entire time. Just because you think you know someone, doesn't mean you truly "know him/her". Speculate all anybody wants. But until video pops up somewhere showing exactly what happened, chalk it up to a tragedy none the less. |
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Post by Shon Maxx on Dec 6, 2011 19:26:02 GMT -5
I was one of Benoit's biggest fans. Hell, I'm ashamed that I was hoping to put the blame on his wife. When I learned the truth though, I was disgusted, both at him and myself.
I don't care if it was planned or not. He killed his wife and kid. Why? Drugs? Head injury (No one pushed him head-first off those turnbuckles)? It doesn't matter because he knew what he did, and it was sick.
I no longer give a damn about his life or any movie based on him. I'd just rather forget that he ever existed.
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Post by floydthebarber on Dec 6, 2011 20:44:18 GMT -5
Some great points made.
I know I didn't know Benoit, or will ever 'understand' what happened...but that's just, for me, the natural fallout from having someone I saw as 'great' exposed for what he really was. To do what he did, he couldn't have been a good person who just snapped...he had to have been carrying a dark side around, and Swarm's example of long-time wife abuse points to that. The fact that the crime was as calculating, albeit insane, as it was points to that. Benoit was just really good at keeping that side of his personality hidden.
Do I think the drugs, head shots and even the death of Eddie G. contributed to Benoits downward spiral? I think its possible. But again, that is NO excuse for what he did....which was evil.
However, I don't think its right to try and pretend like the guy never existed either...unless that's your way of 'getting past' this, and to that I say whatever works. Personally, Benoit's story is done, and I'll remember him as a great wrestler who is worth noting for his in-ring talent, but was, in the end, a twisted, evil coward.
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Post by Justin Case on Dec 6, 2011 21:25:28 GMT -5
Some great points made. I know I didn't know Benoit, or will ever 'understand' what happened...but that's just, for me, the natural fallout from having someone I saw as 'great' exposed for what he really was. To do what he did, he couldn't have been a good person who just snapped...he had to have been carrying a dark side around, and Swarm's example of long-time wife abuse points to that. The fact that the crime was as calculating, albeit insane, as it was points to that. Benoit was just really good at keeping that side of his personality hidden. Do I think the drugs, head shots and even the death of Eddie G. contributed to Benoits downward spiral? I think its possible. But again, that is NO excuse for what he did....which was evil. However, I don't think its right to try and pretend like the guy never existed either...unless that's your way of 'getting past' this, and to that I say whatever works. Personally, Benoit's story is done, and I'll remember him as a great wrestler who is worth noting for his in-ring talent, but was, in the end, a twisted, evil coward. Ok, NOW I get what you meant by "evil". Good points. |
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Post by Vegas on Jan 1, 2012 19:36:05 GMT -5
SRG Films' upcoming film Crossface retelling Chris Benoit's descent into double murder and suicide will feature actors portraying his wrestling peers.
"Eddie [Guerrero] is obviously very important to the story," Sarah Coulter tells WorstPreviews.com, who has already written the first draft of the script. "Triple H, Kurt Angle, they're all there, but it's early and things can still change."
Regarding whether the film will be a biopic, Coulter says, "Chris had a remarkable career. You take a look at his time in Japan and with Stu Hart, and you realize that you'd need more than one movie to tell the entire Chris Benoit story. Ultimately, it's about the 2007 murders/suicide, so we had to pick and choose the right moments in Chris' career that may have been factors in his downfall."
Coulter adds several actors are under consideration for the lead role and that an official casting announcement will be made soonwww.lordsofpain.net/news/First_Details_On_Upcoming_Chris_Benoit_Movie_-_WWE_Stars_To_Be_Portrayed.html
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