Manager Chart Question?

[Rex Havoc]

Hey all,

I was wondering if we have a Manager out of the ring chart in the game. Something along the lines of what Managers used to do back in the 70's and 80's outside the ring. I know we have the manager interference chart but i feel for guys like Nick Bockwinkle and others when you roll out of the ring, The don't do anything but distract the ref while bobby did something like a kick to the stomach or something or have you guys just modified what you rolled on the out of ring chart?

[Pete]

So, the Outside Interference chart made its debut with the 2088 set (I think--may have been 2089 but I'm pretty sure it was '88). In the original instruction book for 2087, if you had an ally at ringside (since there were no managers yet), you could substitute any roll of 2-6 on the Out of the Ring Chart (regardless of Ring rating) with an instruction like, "You are picked up by the opponent's ringside ally and thrown into the steel ring post. OPPONENT ROLLS DISQUALIFICATION 6. If there is no disqualification, you are thrown back into the ring and the opponent rolls on Level 3 Offense."

This rule is so obscure and rendered somewhat superfluous by the Interference Chart (even though, as you point out, the situations aren't really the same) that I don't know if anyone still uses it at all. Though to my knowledge, it was never officially stricken or superceded like the original (ag)/(pw) rules were.

[Pariah]

I think the points raised in this discussion (which is a quite interesting topic, I might add) harkens back to something I heard Swarm and Sam Fain talking about on a past episode of Roll Up... As promoters, do we really need charts and special card instructions to dictate every single scenario? I believe this game can be played with minimal deviations from standard gameplay... Let the cards and dice guide the flow of the action, but use your own creativity to interpret the results.

In a nutshell... Don't let your imagination be shackled by game mechanics.

[topdollar]

I think the Dark Menace card from the Dark Menace Forces 6-Pack has an out of the ring interference chart.

[on_the_edge]

Oct 28, 2021 11:20:37 GMT -5 Pariah said:

I think the points raised in this discussion (which is a quite interesting topic, I might add) harkens back to something I heard Swarm and Sam Fain talking about on a past episode of Roll Up... As promoters, do we really need charts and special card instructions to dictate every single scenario? I believe this game can be played with minimal deviations from standard gameplay... Let the cards and dice guide the flow of the action, but use your own creativity to interpret the results.

In a nutshell... Don't let your imagination be shackled by game mechanics.

All of this.

When I first started many moons ago, many many moons ago, I used to stick to the rules and go from there. Then I realized some limitations and slowly branched out. Now I use the charts and rules and books as a guide. They create a base structure and I go off from that. As it is, the dice decide about 80-90% of what happens in my feds. The rest is my discretion with a touch of bending the "rules" to get what I want in certain rare occasions.

Only thing else I can add is if you want a certain kind of chart, make it. I have done that for certain matches. One day I plan on redoing the action charts (Ring, Turnbuckle etc) so that the rating for both wrestlers involved is taken into consideration before rolling.

[Big Bri]

I don't think there's an official version, but you might want to check the "Fan Made Content" section of the board. All types of homemade charts there.