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Post by payback on Aug 4, 2009 18:04:53 GMT -5
There's always Pride. ;D
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Post by Hawk on Aug 4, 2009 18:33:13 GMT -5
I actually like the idea of Blast & Liberty's son coming in. Think about it, sure his father went out about as poorly as possible (in one of the most unexplained nonsensical turns in GWF history), but why can't his son come in to clear the family name? Maybe have the backstory that in his mind, becoming a top flight wrestler would somehow rectify what his father did and his inability to become a top player? We've had wrestlers come in with far less reasoning then that.
You could put a happy spin on that whole travesty. Whose to say Blast didn't repent for his actions, and somehow managed to get back with Liberty? Yet the fans everywhere he went still remembered what he'd done? The GWF is supposed to be a shoot essentially, right? What if in a twist, the traitor having reformed, is the one who had to survive in a galaxy that hated him? The son could have grown up in a hostile environment, full of people who hated him for who he was.
You could even bring him in as a heel, out to prove his family's heritage while harboring some serious grudges against everyone.
There's so many possibilities for this. It wouldn't be "US Patriot Type 2" but instead it'd be a fully fleshed out character, the son of the most disgraced wrestler in GWF history. He could be out to clear his family's name, or be out to take revenge against the GWF and the galaxy at large. He could want to be a top flight champion, or he could take it out on everyone by intentionally trying to ruin events, and rankings. So many possibilities.
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Post by SuperNaturalX on Aug 4, 2009 18:47:07 GMT -5
Who is Pride?
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Post by purplesteve6 on Aug 4, 2009 19:10:03 GMT -5
Rawk,
I think you have some decent ideas. If any of them were implemented I think we'd swallow it. For me though, it would be tough to. First, he could be the boyscout of boyscouts and people would love him, but how exactly does that clear the family name? I think if he stayed away from Adam Blast then his name is clear isn't it? I think the only one who can clear the family name would be Adam Blast himself, and I can't see any interest in bringing him back to do that.
You said that he could be out for revenge, in which place he would have to come in as a heel, which would make Ms. Liberty a heel, and would essentially condone the things U.S. Traitor did. Entering as a heel wouldn't make sense at all. Anyway, who would he be seeking revenge against?
So entering as a face without any sort of ties to his father is the only thing that I think works. But if that's the case, then why enter? Who is he out to get? What feud do you envision?
Anyway, U.S. Patriot sucked. Why are we so concerned about having closure to his story? Is it because we know that they had a child? I just don't understand why Tom would go out of his way to veer (backwards) onto this course at any foreseable point in time.
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Post by kveiceman on Aug 4, 2009 19:10:48 GMT -5
I agree with Rawk Gracie in the fact that the son of Adam Blast has so many different angles that can be explored and taken advantage of. I would like to see it happen. I think it would give the GWF the next great story.
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Post by Hawk on Aug 4, 2009 19:28:10 GMT -5
I actually really liked US Patriot. His 2098 card was pretty good. With a few small changes (IE PIN rating) he could have been a serious contender. There's also the sentimentality aspect. If you count Pulsar, Blast was the second rookie in the COTG linearity of the sets. There's also the fact that his Traitor gimmick made no sense whatsoever and had no real payoff.
There's still people in the GWF the son could seek revenge against. Star Warrior's son is still around. Thantos's son is still around. In general, he could claim that the GWF caused his father to do what he did (God knows there wasn't any legitimate reasoning for it), and thus wants to mess up the GWF. Claim the GWF held him back, or any such BS reason. In trying to "clear" his family's name, he in effect, becomes the same thing his father was. He actively sabotages the GWF.
And why would this make Ms. Liberty a heel? She doesn't have to condone his actions. Adam Blast himself doesn't have to condone them. The way he was raised in a severely hostile environment beget his current mind frame. Ms. Liberty would have nothing to do with it, logically speaking. If you went this route, it's the galaxy's fault for treating him and his family that way. Do you honestly think that even if Adam Blast did try to salvage himself that people would hear "son of Adam Blast" and not have hostile feelings towards the son? I bet they would. He's an outcast just for who he is. Even if he lived away from his father and under an assumed name or something to that effect, the inner loathing of having to hide his identity would probably have severe psychological effects.
That's if you brought him in as a heel. You could easily do the face route. Have the son show up, announce himself as the son of Adam Blast and explain that he's out to clear his family's name. The actions of the son save the name of the father. That could be his rationale. Doesn't mean it works, but it means he has a logical reasoning for his actions. You would then have the flexibility of a later heel turn due to his ideology failing, or he could somehow succeed.
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Post by kveiceman on Aug 4, 2009 20:16:22 GMT -5
Rawk,
I like the way you are putting the spin on the whole Adam Blast idea for his son. I think it could be the best story in the GWF. He could turn out to be the greatest hero or heel in the GWF. I just thunk it is time to bring back some history of the GWF. I have been playing the GWF since 1987 and just because they made a new start does not mean they should forget the past.
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Post by purplesteve6 on Aug 5, 2009 9:32:40 GMT -5
I agree that maybe it's time to bring some history back to the GWF. It seems like there is some conscious effort not to rehash the past at all. Sly Drury being the man behind Iron Hand solidified that. I just have a feeling that we're not going to see anything rehashed pre-2119.
Think about it though, there is only so much nostaligia any given set can handle. I'm still waiting for Epoch's return which I think is much more relevant in today's GWF than the prodigal son of a midcard wrestler who left more than 12 years ago.
It could happen, but I wouldn't expect for a while. The kid was born in 2108, which would make him 16. So if we're clammoring for the next American Hero, you may have to wait a few years if it's going to be Adam Blast Jr.
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Post by Vidtek on Aug 5, 2009 9:52:13 GMT -5
It could happen, but I wouldn't expect for a while. The kid was born in 2108, which would make him 16. No, reread my post. The kid was actually born in 2107, the year Ms. Liberty took off for maternity leave (and unless tehre has been some downgrade in human physiology in the 2100 it still only takes nine months to have a baby). That makes him 17 as of 2124. And a precident has been set for 17 year olds to compete in the GWF (in the form of Karah, who was writen as being 17 in his bio in Son of Bash). I did write a bootleg and a bio for him but I misplaced the card so it may be a few more days before I can post it.
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Post by wildman on Aug 5, 2009 9:52:55 GMT -5
I would like to see a new American Hero in the GWF. I think maybe the son of Commander Sam or maybe even the son of U.S. Patriot/Traitor and Mrs. Liberty. What does everyone else think? If there was a kin of Commander Sam it would have to be a grand-child. Commander Sam was an old man back in 2087 so wouldnt a son/daughter of his be like 50 or 60 now??
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