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Post by barnestormer on Feb 13, 2016 17:34:48 GMT -5
Great chart, and I think I might use it in my upcoming fed, WAR Wrestling. I would only add one thing, and that is, should the match end in a draw, take the difference between winner and loser, split it, then add to both wrestlers' heat. Using your example above with Elgin and Lethal, the difference is 6%, so if they were to wrestle to a draw, each would gain 3%. I only mention this because the way WAR is set up, draws could occur and they must be accounted for. Sounds good. I'll give it a try in my Ring of Respect fed. I know that a recent card I just held (the results of which won't be posted until after March 9 because that was the date of the show), I had Paul London & Brian Kendrick in a grudge match against the Young Bucks (You'll just have to wait for the details on this match until March, wrestling fans) that ended in a double disqualification the way I had the FB% set up, The Young Bucks post-show FB% went to 32% while London & Kendrick's went to 31%.. |
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Post by barnestormer on Feb 16, 2016 14:25:22 GMT -5
Great chart, and I think I might use it in my upcoming fed, WAR Wrestling. I would only add one thing, and that is, should the match end in a draw, take the difference between winner and loser, split it, then add to both wrestlers' heat. Using your example above with Elgin and Lethal, the difference is 6%, so if they were to wrestle to a draw, each would gain 3%. I only mention this because the way WAR is set up, draws could occur and they must be accounted for. Sounds good. I'll give it a try in my Ring of Respect fed. I know that a recent card I just held (the results of which won't be posted until after March 9 because that was the date of the show), I had Paul London & Brian Kendrick in a grudge match against the Young Bucks (You'll just have to wait for the details on this match until March, wrestling fans) that ended in a double disqualification the way I had the FB% set up, The Young Bucks post-show FB% went to 32% while London & Kendrick's went to 31%.. I had to go back and do the math on your idea, elscotto. First thing, the difference in their post show Fan Base Percentages would be different if the match ends in a draw because this time Elgin didn't get pinned by way of the LETHAL INJECTION. As it stands right now, the only time a match technically ends in a draw for me in Ring of Respect is if a match ends in a double disqualification due to a brawl in the ring (as per the PIN Save chart) or outside the ring (when rolling on the out of the ring chart. Double count outs don't exist on the updated Out of the Ring chart). Therefore I had to go back and re-calculate everything to account for the double DQ "draw" result: | SITUATION | MICHAEL ELGIN | JAY LETHAL | | Pre-Match Fan Base Percentage | 25% | 25% | | Major Rivalry | + 5% | + 5% | | Heavyweight Title Match Participation | + 3% | + 3% | | Michael uses the spinning back fist to attempt a pinfall (normal move) | + 1% | | | Michael uses the ELGIN BOMB to attempt a pinfall (Finishing move) | + 5% | | | Jay uses the Lethal Combination to attempt a pinfall (Specialty move) | | + 3% | | Jay uses the KOJI CLUTCH to attempt a submission (Finishing move) | | + 5% | | Jay uses the LETHAL INJECTION to attempt a pinfall (Finishing move) | | + 5% | | Jay uses an eye rake twice during the match | | - 4% | | Both wrestlers are disqualified due to a brawl outside the ring (our "draw" result in this example) | - 1% | - 1% | | Post-Match Fan Base Percentage | 65% | 45% | | Subtract the lower post-match Fan Base Percentage to determine the difference | -45% | | | Fan Base Percentage Difference | 20% | | | Divide the difference by 2 | /2 | | | Fan Base Percentage to add to both wrestler's post-match Fan Base Percentages | +10% | +10% | | Final Post-Match Fan Base Percentage | 75% | 55% |
Hopefully this'll clarify things. Let me know what you think. |
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Post by awsomsinger on Mar 10, 2016 23:33:00 GMT -5
I like it. Now that you mention it, I think it makes more sense that way.
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Post by barnestormer on Dec 26, 2016 8:44:57 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I've used this system, as I've been establishing my Ring of Respect rankings during the past 9 months utilizing Graymar's ELO ranking system. Now that I've got them established, I'm going back to utilizing my Fan Base Percentages system, to use in conjunction with the ELO system, ranking each division from highest Fan Base Percentage to lowest, while using each wrestler's and team's current ELO ratings to break any ties. To that end, I did some minor tweaking here and there during the time I was using the Fan Base Percentage system exclusively, and lately I decided to add a couple of bonuses for winning secondary and major titles. I'm now presenting the revised system for your consideration and/or feedback. |
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Post by barnestormer on Dec 29, 2016 4:16:22 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I've used this system, as I've been establishing my Ring of Respect rankings during the past 9 months utilizing Graymar's ELO ranking system. Now that I've got them established, I'm going back to utilizing my Fan Base Percentages system, to use in conjunction with the ELO system, ranking each division from highest Fan Base Percentage to lowest, while using each wrestler's and team's current ELO ratings to break any ties. To that end, I did some minor tweaking here and there during the time I was using the Fan Base Percentage system exclusively, and lately I decided to add a couple of bonuses for winning secondary and major titles. I'm now presenting the revised system for your consideration and/or feedback. After I'd originally posted the revised system on December 26, I added a new rule/guideline, whatever you want to call it, to the system. It deals with multi-man tag matches, such as a singles wrestler and a tag team face another singles wrestler and tag team in 6-man matches, but it also applies to 6 individual wrestlers in 6-man tag team matches. Basically the individuals or teams with the highest Fan Base Percentage will use their Fan Base as their team's Pre-Match Fan Base. For example, Jay Lethal, whose Pre-Match Fan Base Percentage is 97%, teams with the Briscoes, whose tag team Pre-Match Fan Base Percentage of 77% are scheduled to face off against Bullet Club members "Hangman" Adam Page, whose Pre-Match Fan Base Percentage is 76% and the Young Bucks, whose tag team Pre-Match Fan Base Percentage is 83%. In this example, Jay Lethal's 97% and the Young Bucks' 83% will be used as the Pre-Match Fan Base Percentages for both teams, respectively. At the conclusion of the match, the points differences will be applied to both teams.
| JAY LETHAL & BRISCOES | ADAM PAGE & YOUNG BUCKS | | 6-Man Tag Team Pre-Match Fan Base | 95 (Jay Lethal's Pre-Match Fan Base) | 83 (Young Bucks' Pre-Match Fan Base) | | (For demonstration purposes, let's keep this match brief and just skip to the conclusion.) The Young Bucks use MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK on Jay Lethal | -5 | 5 | | Jay Lethal is pinned by MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK (Matt scored the pinfall for his team) | -5 | 5 | | Adjusted 6-Man Post-Match Fan Base | 87 | 93 | | Points Difference | -6 | 6 | | Jay Lethal's Adjusted Post-Match Fan Base | 81 |
| | Briscoes' Pre-Match Fan Base | 77 |
| | Briscoes' Adjusted Post-Match Fan Base | 71 (77, minus the points difference of 6) |
| | Young Bucks' Adjusted Post-Match Fan Base |
| 89 | | Adam Page's Pre-Match Post Fan Base |
| 76 | | Adam Page's Adjusted Post-Match Fan Base |
| 82 |
This works with any multi-man match, except for battle royals and battle royal-like matches, such as my old KING OF THE RING match, which I'll be breaking out in January at the next Ring of Respect internet pay per view, NO RESPECT, NO HONOR 2017. I'll need to come up with a rule/guideline that'll work in that situation. |
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