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Post by Vegas on Nov 10, 2008 13:46:59 GMT -5
I'm also not keen on jobber cards with no finisher as it's kinda academic playing them knowing they are going to lose. I 100% disagree with you on this too. Since the stats on the cards reflect their actual movesets then a wrestler should not have a finisher on their card if they didn't have one in real life. Plus, since you still have to roll the dice, they actually have a slightly better chance of winning in the game than they usually did when they were actually wrestling.
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Post by Vegas on Nov 10, 2008 13:51:46 GMT -5
I also just want to go on record saying I really don't "hate" any of the Legends cards at all.
I know that Tim Dalton, Chad Olson, and Cory Olson put alot of work and time into making these cards for us and I'm very grateful for the hours and hours of low cost enjoyment that LOW has provided me and will continue to provide me in the future.
The same for Knapik and Legends of the Future.
Keep up the awesome work!
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Post by du5tin on Nov 10, 2008 13:55:38 GMT -5
I also just want to go on record saying I really don't "hate" any of the Legends cards at all. I know that Tim Dalton, Chad Olson, and Cory Olson put alot of work and time into making these cards for us and I'm very grateful for the hours and hours of low cost enjoyment that LOW has provided me and will continue to provide me in the future. The same for Knapik and Legends of the Future. I echo you, Mr. Vee. Keep up the awesome work!
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Post by holland227 on Nov 10, 2008 14:01:22 GMT -5
I really didnt mean Hate hate, dislike should be the better word
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Post by Tournament Master on Nov 10, 2008 14:21:04 GMT -5
Speaking of George South, he does have some wins for me...even beating Strangler Lewis in his first match after a big buildup. Never know what the dice will do.
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Post by executioner on Nov 10, 2008 15:12:33 GMT -5
Speaking of George South, he does have some wins for me...even beating Strangler Lewis in his first match after a big buildup. Never know what the dice will do. Whoa, whoa, hold up. South beat Lewis?!?! Now I took a ton of heat for when South beat Condrey, but Lewis? TM must have been using the loaded dice!
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Post by kingwiththeax on Nov 10, 2008 16:44:32 GMT -5
Speaking of George South, he does have some wins for me...even beating Strangler Lewis in his first match after a big buildup. Never know what the dice will do. Strangler Lewis has always been up/down for me. Every time I try to push him, he falls on his face. I honestly think he needs a dazed-1 on L2D to give him a little boost. I wish Hacksaw Jim Duggan's finisher was +2 instead of +1 to give him a boost. Seems like every time I try to do a classic foreign heel/Jim Duggan feud, the matches usually end by the foreign heel kicking out of the Flying Spear and then the heel putting him away. Not too bad, 130 (ish) cards and only 2 cards I don't really like. LOW is by far the best wrestling game around. It is fun to play, the rules are simple enough where you don't have to check the rulebook every 3rd dice roll, and it is not bogged down with massive amounts of bookwork. Actually tried the +2 finisher for Duggan in my fed, and this really made a difference. Just a better feel to the card, not a big boost, but he is winning matches he should win, and doesnt have to hit the Flying Spear 2-3 times to win the match......
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Post by jasonjaconetti on Nov 10, 2008 17:15:23 GMT -5
I also just want to go on record saying I really don't "hate" any of the Legends cards at all. I know that Tim Dalton, Chad Olson, and Cory Olson put alot of work and time into making these cards for us and I'm very grateful for the hours and hours of low cost enjoyment that LOW has provided me and will continue to provide me in the future. The same for Knapik and Legends of the Future. Keep up the awesome work! Of course we all love LOW/LOTF....otherwise we wouldn't be playing and writting on the board.
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Post by TDalton on Nov 10, 2008 17:24:15 GMT -5
Strangler Lewis has always been up/down for me. Every time I try to push him, he falls on his face. I honestly think he needs a dazed-1 on L2D to give him a little boost. I wish Hacksaw Jim Duggan's finisher was +2 instead of +1 to give him a boost. Seems like every time I try to do a classic foreign heel/Jim Duggan feud, the matches usually end by the foreign heel kicking out of the Flying Spear and then the heel putting him away. Eventually, I'd like to give Lewis a boost. There was some last minute tinkering that really took him down a bit. When that set gets reprinted, we'll make some changes. As I've said, there are about 10-12 cards I think need some re-work. Not much of a change, just a couple adjustments here and there. Sometimes things just don't wind up working out like they did when you play tested the stats in 8-10 matches. To address a couple other comments: - Jim Londos was the top guy of his era. He was a huge draw, and a dominant force in the sport. When he left, business nationally went in the tank and didn't recover for years. The problem is most people don't know anything about him sice he wrestled so long ago. While you'll always have some enigmatic problems with things like "how can Londos pick Bundy up for the Airplane Spin?" history would say that given their relative stature and importance, Londos should go over Bundy. - my feelings on Bruiser Brody are well documented, but the intent was to make his level 3 defense very tough so that he was someone you might get down, but you couldn't keep down.
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Post by The Creek Rises on Nov 10, 2008 17:32:34 GMT -5
Strangler Lewis lost a match to Ox Baker when he had a chance to enter my BCW federation -- hasn't been seen since, but will probably get another shot in the not-too-distant future.
The card I'm most puzzled by (and it's really a dice issue, methinks) is Don Leo Jonathan, my current U.S. champ and a former BCW heavyweight champ. During matches, he seems to do just enough to hang around! As far as putting his opponent away, he seems relatively disinterested. For about a year's (game) time, he really did a whole lot of nothing. On skills alone, he looks to be the whole package, but when in the ring ...
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