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Post by TTX on Apr 12, 2018 19:45:33 GMT -5
When G-Con was in Cleveland....they did all women vs men for one show....mind you all the men won except Gregory Iron but it was really tough to believe Veda Scott had a chance against Rickey Shane Page.
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Post by aceldamas on Apr 12, 2018 19:56:36 GMT -5
Yeah, there was a lot of hype for the Brian Cage/Tessa Blanchard match at Wrestlecircus recently. “They told the story so well.” But I don’t care - when it takes a roided up gorilla like Cage twenty minutes to beat her, it’s idiotic. You can be good at telling a story but if the story is stupid it doesn’t matter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 2:00:41 GMT -5
Yeah, there was a lot of hype for the Brian Cage/Tessa Blanchard match at Wrestlecircus recently. “They told the story so well.” But I don’t care - when it takes a roided up gorilla like Cage twenty minutes to beat her, it’s idiotic. You can be good at telling a story but if the story is stupid it doesn’t matter. Welcome to modern wrestling, where pandering to certain types of fans who don't get it matters more than a believable product. The 'wrestling can be whatever we want it to' generation is the worst thing that could have happened to the business. The indies are surging now but what do you do when the bubble bursts? What's the next evolution? This stupid shit isn't like ECW where you take it so far that people want to see actual wrestling when it's over. Where do you go from here? |
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Post by Vegas on Apr 13, 2018 2:11:44 GMT -5
When G-Con was in Cleveland....they did all women vs men for one show....mind you all the men won except Gregory Iron I have to check result but I thought at that show we were at for Galacticon 2015 that Crazy Mary Dobson (now Sarah Logan in the WWE) defeated Mad Man Pondo? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 2:51:46 GMT -5
When G-Con was in Cleveland....they did all women vs men for one show....mind you all the men won except Gregory Iron I have to check result but I thought at that show we were at for Galacticon 2015 that Crazy Mary Dobson (now Sarah Logan in the WWE) defeated Mad Man Pondo? Yeah, she did. IIRC that was one of those 'they're dating so they work a match together' things like MASADA/CvE, Gargano/Candice and Kingston/Yim. |
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Post by TTX on Apr 13, 2018 6:04:28 GMT -5
It had been a while.....couldn't remember if she won or not.....anyways, one of t hose matches I could deal with.a whole show was just a bit too much.
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Post by Vegas on Apr 17, 2018 22:54:01 GMT -5
I saw that the EVOLVE 5 handbook just got Emailed out to those who bought the set. I hope you like the No Rope Break match I wrote. It was a last minute addition to the handbook. But with new EVOLVE Champion Matt Riddle on the last show EVOLVE 103 saying he wants all of this title defense to be No Rope Break matches, and with an updated Riddle card in this set, this match seemed a perfect fit for this EVOLVE 5 set.
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Post by MHardcore on Apr 17, 2018 23:46:24 GMT -5
Just saw that. Thanks again Vegas. Really cool. Was excited to see a new special match and as you mentioned, the timing couldn’t be better.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:16:22 GMT -5
Got my cards today. I'm going to be in the minority here and I'm sure my opinion means a grand total of jack and shit, but there's way too many cards who either have finisher charts or 'roll one dice to see if the move works' or even alternate finishers for tag/singles matches and frankly seven out of eight guys in the set having multiple finishers seems excessive. I know this trend started back in the early days of the indie cards and I obviously played a part in it, but sometimes too much is too much. I know that guys like Riddle do a ton of moves and he can end a match multiple different ways but it feels really cheap to just give him a finisher chart when you could have just done the two finishers thing like almost everyone else in the set has and try to put the other moves on his card somewhere. I know that the ROH Champion Danielson card I did had a finisher chart and Swarm's original Briscoes had the DAY ONE chart, but those were the exceptions. I don't like the idea of it being the norm.
There are some really puzzling things happening between this stuff and Jon Gresham getting a ridiculously overpowered card that should have never, ever made it to print with those stats. I'm not saying the cards or bad or that anyone is doing a bad job, people work hard on this stuff, but it gets to a point where things are really excessive and it leads to a power creep and I don't want things to go much further in this direction.
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Post by Vegas on Apr 18, 2018 9:43:52 GMT -5
Jon Gresham getting a ridiculously overpowered card that should have never, ever made it to print with those stats. I respectfully disagree. Jonathan Gresham has a CZW card that was released in 2016 when he was CZW Heavyweight Champion. The card release happened to coincide with the high point of his career, no way of knowing at that time his reign would be short (especially since he was on fire in CZW that year where he had also won Best of the Best 15.) I do agree that a Jonathan Gresham ROH card would definitely not be as strong, but that CZW card strength I do defend based on the context of the time it was released. I am at work right now and I can talk more later, but I honestly like this set alot. Perhaps my favorite of the EVOLVE sets. |
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