What the heck is an "uchi mata"?

[Darth Turkish]

Since I am sure there are going to be questions about the POW mixed martial arts move names and whatnot, I am starting a thread so they can all be asked and answered here.

So, fire away!



Here, Blue executes a great uchi mata (inner thigh throw), defending White's attempt at a tani otoshi (in English 'valley drop'- or 'double sliding leg trip' as I put on some of the MMA cards)

I never get tired of seeing this clip!

[Darth Turkish]

Here is an awesome uranage by Yellow.

Brown moves in for a hip throw, is too high up and gets taken down hard.

A little more than pride got hurt in this one

[Darth Turkish]

The 'back hip throw' or ushiro goshi

here is another look

[Darth Turkish]

just a short video of some really well executed competition style tai otoshi (body drop throw)

Another favorite of mine.

[antimony]

Hey, Turkish--

What exactly is a "reap?" I get (or think I get) that it's some sort of trip or throw or combination of the two. But what differentiates it from any other trip or throw (or whatever it really is)?

[antimony]

Jan 27, 2008 21:24:34 GMT -5 Darth Turkish said:

Here is an awesome uranage by Yellow.

Brown moves in for a hip throw, is too high up and gets taken down hard.

A little more than pride got hurt in this one

Good grief! I thought he killed him for a minute!

I hadn't seen this clip before--thanks for posting it (and for posting this topic at all--it's a really great service).

[Darth Turkish]

Feb 24, 2008 20:06:59 GMT -5 @antimony said:

Hey, Turkish--

What exactly is a "reap?" I get (or think I get) that it's some sort of trip or throw or combination of the two. But what differentiates it from any other trip or throw (or whatever it really is)?

"Reaping" is a word used to describe the finishing motion of a throw, not a throw itself. In a 'reap" the body part (usually the leg, but can be the hands) carries through as much as possible. It is a very powerful motion.

Think of a scythe or sickle cutting wheat. You bring the blade up high and in an even arc, driving it thorugh the wheat stalks.

The same applies here. I'll use osoto gari ( big outside reap) as an example, as it is one of the more common reaps. This pic: shows an excellent reap here, As White's right leg is very deep on Blue's right. Instead of just putting the foot down behind the opponent's heel (a trip), White leg is almost fully extended, calf to calf, up in the air, continung to cause problems of balance, should the defender be ready. If the defender is ready for a trip, they most likely will not get taken down.

This video does a good job of showing the reap. While the reaping leg does always not look like the above pic, the calf to calf action is present, and never does the thrower put his foot down right behind the opponent's heel- he always drives it back.

Also notice here, though, the tremendous motion of the attacker's upper body- this is more important than the reap itself, as with no offbalance, the throw does not work. For osoto gari, the reap is a mere finishing touch.

[Darth Turkish]

Feb 24, 2008 20:09:18 GMT -5 @antimony said:

Jan 27, 2008 21:24:34 GMT -5 Darth Turkish said:

Here is an awesome uranage by Yellow.

Brown moves in for a hip throw, is too high up and gets taken down hard.

A little more than pride got hurt in this one

Good grief! I thought he killed him for a minute!

I hadn't seen this clip before--thanks for posting it (and for posting this topic at all--it's a really great service).

We have talked about this move before- and now you can see why this is much different from The Rock Bottom (which actually is not a uranage at all).

[antimony]

So, a reap is sort of a "high, full body trip." Sort of. I got it now.

And yeah, we've talked about the uranage, but to actually see it--even my wife watched it and said "Ooo! Ouch!"

The Rock would kill someone if he tried to do a true uranage. I can see the tiniest bit of a Rock Bottom in it (or vice versa, maybe), but still.

[TDalton]

It always bothered me when the Rock Bottom or Book End was called an uranage. They are actually closer to o soto gari.

If you want to see a good pro wrestling uranage, watch some old Hiroshi Hase tapes from his New Japan days. Those looked brutal.