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Post by Pete on Jan 24, 2021 23:36:16 GMT -5
One other 2/3-fall clarification to add: in tag matches, traditionally you cannot switch partners between falls. The winner and loser must start the next fall again. While it's always "up to you, promoter," I agree that these rules could stand to be codified in official literature.
Agreed that it's time to bite the bullet and get official rules for the traditional matches that don't have them yet: Stretcher, Scaffold, Strap, Bullrope, and I Quit and/or Submission. The old Special Matches Spectacular in the Promoter had rules for an Antigrav Platform Match that's a cool futuristic substitute for a Scaffold Match if trying to simulate fighting on a rickety 3-foot platform is too difficult. I've also never been a big fan of the First-Blood Match as it is now--that is, to arbitrarily pick a number of tokens to equal blood and play until someone hits it. But I confess to not being able to offer up any brilliant alternatives, either. I use Jeff Manjarrez's old Blood & Guts Rules chart and end the match as soon as someone gets a "Deep Cut"--it's a little much as it is now but maybe the rules could be tweaked and simplified for general use.
(For the Strap Match, I'd be tempted to just ask Dave Shaffer to make his Cetus Strap Match official, with full credit given of course.)
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Post by joebreakdown on Jan 25, 2021 3:14:31 GMT -5
Really cool to hear this. I have the old version that I picked up from eBay a while ago. I'#ve always struggles with triple threat and Rumble matches so I hope they are included.
Also, following on from some great discussions on here recently, it would be fun to see some ideas of how to set up/manage a fed,' kind of a 'hints n tips or suggestions page.
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Post by victoryroll84 on Jan 25, 2021 8:04:46 GMT -5
It's been a long time coming very excited by this news!
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Post by Chad Olson on Jan 25, 2021 8:54:21 GMT -5
Lots of great comments, everyone! Please keep them coming. I can't promise we can do everything suggested, but every comment will be reviewed.
I look forward to getting this in everyone's hands!
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 25, 2021 9:15:01 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought it was official that you carry over tokens and are even "supposed" to for tournaments or gaunlets where you have back to back matches. Minus one if a couple matches in between and two if you have a bye. So I would say two out of three falls matches don't need to be included. That part Gorillasrus I was actually just debating with a friend today, I think the title would change hands if say it was one fall apiece and the champion then lost by DQ they would lose the title. We tried to think of scenarios where it didnt happen that way but couldnt. The British Bulldogs beat the Hart Foundation on a Saturday Night's Main Event in two straight falls but didn't get the belts because the first fall was a DQ.
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 25, 2021 9:44:36 GMT -5
Are the Turnbuckle/Out of the Ring/etc charts due to be revised? I don't have a problem with the current charts but it seems like they got revised in the past when a new Ringside Companion was released. Regardless, mine are getting beat up so I'll be getting new ones the next time I place an order.
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Post by Chad Olson on Jan 25, 2021 9:45:40 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the scenario that Gunslinger describes. However, when the Brainbusters beat Demolition for the tag belts on SNME, wasn't one of the falls a DQ?
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Post by TTX on Jan 25, 2021 9:46:39 GMT -5
It was indeed. Smash got dq'ed for some trivial reason before the Busters cheated to win the third fall.
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 25, 2021 9:48:20 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the scenario that Gunslinger describes. However, when the Brainbusters beat Demolition for the tag belts on SNME, wasn't one of the falls a DQ? Go point out your rule inconsistencies some place else!
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Post by Chad Olson on Jan 25, 2021 11:12:16 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the scenario that Gunslinger describes. However, when the Brainbusters beat Demolition for the tag belts on SNME, wasn't one of the falls a DQ? Go point out your rule inconsistencies some place else! I agree with the interpretation that both falls should be clean for a title to change hands. I think the "one fall is a DQ" schmozz is how Carpentier beat Thesz for a NWA World title claim.
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