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Post by Blehschmidt on May 12, 2021 10:33:14 GMT -5
Just curious what criteria everyone uses for tournaments when it comes to fatigue and injury.
1) If a wrestler adds to his pin rating during a Round 1 match, how much do you carry over to Round 2? Any? Some? All? How do you decide?
2) How high does (or would) that number have to get before you decide that a guy couldn't continue into the next round?
3) Do you have any other interesting rules for tournaments?
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Post by throwingtoasters on May 12, 2021 11:06:56 GMT -5
I do carry fatigue forward but I will subtract 1 fatigue in between rounds.
So Adrian Adonis wins but has 2 fatigue tokens. To start his next round match he’ll have 1 fatigue.
My thinking is they have time to rest/heal as the other matches in that round are going on but they shouldn’t be totally absolved from that previous match.
I do the same for the finals assuming that showing promo packages or pre-match interviews will let them rest a bit.
This has lead to some great moments. Sherri Martel had a great run in a recent gauntlet and racked up something like 5 or 6 tokens but just kept winning matches.
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Post by tystates on May 12, 2021 11:20:23 GMT -5
I rarely ever carry fatigue over to the next round. Basically you going to make those 3rd and 4th round matches real short with pins starting at 6,7,8 etc. Maybe for a storyline if a guy had 6 coins and won the match I could do something the next round but this is wrestling I don't need that much realism.
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Post by LAWraith on May 12, 2021 11:54:16 GMT -5
Actually I was gonna say what Ty said but in SUPPORT of carrying tokens over lol. I get why some dont but I think it kills the realism for me. I do take off one for the break between rounds but I carry over.
Cases like Wrestlemania IV should be rare where Savage has grueling matches and then overcomes a more fresh Dibiase (in fact, I had a similar set up and came down to Savage and Dibiase after Savage had a brutal match with Magnum TA. Dibiase was almost fresh in the finale and beat Savage down and took home the title as a result. Savage may have been the better man but that night the dice told their story)
But also do what you think works best for you, one thing I have found works or I like might not work for you. Try it out and see what you think.
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Post by natureboi on May 14, 2021 3:29:57 GMT -5
It's all a work in my promotion. Realism is whatever I deem it to be. The marks buy it because I am consistent. So no fatigue carry over for anybody in a tournament.
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Post by Travis605 on May 14, 2021 3:49:55 GMT -5
I do carry fatigue forward but I will subtract 1 fatigue in between rounds. So Adrian Adonis wins but has 2 fatigue tokens. To start his next round match he’ll have 1 fatigue. My thinking is they have time to rest/heal as the other matches in that round are going on but they shouldn’t be totally absolved from that previous match. I do the same for the finals assuming that showing promo packages or pre-match interviews will let them rest a bit. This has lead to some great moments. Sherri Martel had a great run in a recent gauntlet and racked up something like 5 or 6 tokens but just kept winning matches. If I were to pick, I’d do it this way. Sounds reasonable
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Post by LAWraith on May 14, 2021 5:18:38 GMT -5
Yeah there is no wrong answer since you really have to figure out what works for you. In my current fed, I hold a women’s tournament every year. For four years in a row Penny Banner had a really rough 2nd round match and came into the finals a bit gased and lost. One of the tournaments she and Ida Mae had a war and I was shocked Penny won with all the tokens she had gained. She got to the finals I think with 4-5 tokens and the winner hit two moves and rolled her up lol. Normally I don’t track runners up but the fact she got to four straight finals and lost is something that has always stuck with me.
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Post by natureboi on May 14, 2021 5:23:14 GMT -5
A gauntlet match is a single, uninterrupted match, so fatigue accumulation is appropriate. Tournaments can be planned so that no wrestler works consecutive matches without a rest. I always book a non-tourney feature match before a tournament final.
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Post by Gunslinger on May 14, 2021 6:51:42 GMT -5
I've never carried fatigue tokens over but if I did, I think I'd let the wrestler recover a token for each match before his next match. If a guy is in the first match of a sixteen man tournament, there are seven matches before he has to wrestle again so it seems like he'd recover more than one token in that amount of time before the second round.
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Post by Slammin' Sammy on May 14, 2021 7:42:26 GMT -5
In the huge tournament I just finished I carried over fatigue tokens. It's the first time I ever did that. The reason I did this is because I wanted to see some "surprises" in the tournament. As Ty stated by the 3rd and 4th round I started having quick matches. (side note I roll PINS 3 times to mimic a 3 count so my matches tend to last sometime). So what I did to adjust the quick matches was deduct fatigue tokens based on how many each wrestler had. So for example if Wrestler A had 6 tokens and Wrestler B had 3, I would deduct all 3 tokens from Wrestler B and Wrestler A would carry over 3 tokens. That tournament was basically just a way for me to get my juices going so I was just winging it as I went along. Ultimately it's your preference.
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