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Post by tystates on Oct 6, 2021 21:59:38 GMT -5
I'd like to keep height and weight there. I want to track weights so I know who is eligible for a Middleweight/Cruiserweight title, and if I have the weight, I'd like the height to match up. Agreed! And even if they don't announce them much anymore... They did when most of the LOW guys wrestled! I miss the old days when it was treated as more of an actual sport. It's wrestling. If I want a guy to be a cruiserweight then he's a cruiserweight. This is just something I thought of because you don't hear weight announced much. I would keep it on the LOW cards, but this isn't up for an actual debate. I don't expect the FG team to stop putting it on the cards. An example though: nearly every card I stat I find weight online. Height obviously, that is not normally announced anyway. There is a woman in the upcoming set that I can not find a weight listed for her anywhere and I have been searching. Not one of the matches I watched of hers was weight announced. I may just have to make it up. |
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Post by Slymm on Oct 6, 2021 22:08:59 GMT -5
My b&w card has him at 5'10" so I guess he'll be my LOW Orange Cassidy... "Height, whatever" 😂 When I gathered heights and weights for remade cards, I used the B&W card from the COTGOnline gallery, not the printed cards, because it was quicker. So if Online was different than the card, that's on me. No bro it's all good. Not knockin' it at all, was just an observation. Maybe my old b&w card was an error? Maybe I'm going crazy? Maybe both? lol |
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Post by Pete on Oct 6, 2021 22:20:19 GMT -5
100% keep the heights and weights. That and hometowns can add so much when done right, as has already been touched on here.
And yes, my LOW Cruiserweight division was always designated on a case-by-case basis. Koko B. Ware was a cruiserweight--Frank Gotch was not. Some guys like Gorgeous George could drift back and forth.
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Post by WTIC on Oct 6, 2021 22:39:48 GMT -5
If heights can't be found on the usual wrestling sites, you can always try IMDB.com since wrestlers are considered "actors". Many biographies have heights listed, this is how I can find heights for the Celebs that I post!  Example: Here is Hulk Hogan's ACTUAL height, compared to his BILLED height: 6' 4 1/4" -- www.imdb.com/name/nm0001356/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm6' 7" -- www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bios&wrestler=39So if you know what show the wrestler was in (or PPV), you can always find a bio for them on IMDB if you can't find their billed heights elsewhere! Hope this helps! (Thanks for Jerod for helping me find card info like this. He taught me well!) Todd C WTIC |
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Post by Carlzilla on Oct 6, 2021 23:16:20 GMT -5
Since there's a little talk about weights, what does everyone think of the idea of not putting height and weight on the cards anymore? Just home town? My reason for suggesting this is how often do you hear the announcer say a wrestler's weight anymore? It's really not very often at all. Sometimes you don't even get home town, just here's whoever. Legends of wrestling isn't about what is happening now though. They almost always announced weight at the very least in the golden days wrestling. If I was interested in what is happening now, I'd get me some of the indies cards...you can probably remove height, weight, and hometown from those...as well as any sort of wrestling that isn't a huge spot, match pacing, psychology, etc. if you're looking to accurately represent the modern product. |
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Post by Carlzilla on Oct 6, 2021 23:23:54 GMT -5
Agreed! And even if they don't announce them much anymore... They did when most of the LOW guys wrestled! I miss the old days when it was treated as more of an actual sport. It's wrestling. If I want a guy to be a cruiserweight then he's a cruiserweight. This is just something I thought of because you don't hear weight announced much. I would keep it on the LOW cards, but this isn't up for an actual debate. I don't expect the FG team to stop putting it on the cards. An example though: nearly every card I stat I find weight online. Height obviously, that is not normally announced anyway. There is a woman in the upcoming set that I can not find a weight listed for her anywhere and I have been searching. Not one of the matches I watched of hers was weight announced. I may just have to make it up. I don't see anything wrong with putting "unknown" for things like that. Obviously when dealing with older wrestlers you're kind of at the mercy of the archives...and wrestling is notoriously poorly archived until relatively recently. |
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Post by pikemojo on Oct 6, 2021 23:43:13 GMT -5
Can anyone describe for me how Dutch Savage did his running piledriver? I have been wondering about that since the b&w card came out... I can't find any video of it. I was trying to find some video of it as well. I didn't look all that hard but I definitely would like to see it if someone can post a video of it. |
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Post by Vegas on Oct 6, 2021 23:47:39 GMT -5
Agreed! And even if they don't announce them much anymore... They did when most of the LOW guys wrestled! I miss the old days when it was treated as more of an actual sport. It's wrestling. If I want a guy to be a cruiserweight then he's a cruiserweight. This is just something I thought of because you don't hear weight announced much. I would keep it on the LOW cards, but this isn't up for an actual debate. I don't expect the FG team to stop putting it on the cards. An example though: nearly every card I stat I find weight online. Height obviously, that is not normally announced anyway. There is a woman in the upcoming set that I can not find a weight listed for her anywhere and I have been searching. Not one of the matches I watched of hers was weight announced. I may just have to make it up. Last year when I wrote the stats for the CWFH card for Heather Monroe her weight was actually the hardest thing for me to put on the card because it was not getting announced at CWFH, Bar Wrestling, or in any of the other matches I could find footage of her while working on her moveset. I was thinking it was about 120 lbs and it turned out to be the 125 lbs on the card which we found out after we finally got ahold of Heather (it turned out she had changed her Email from which she originally wrote as contact info on her signed release form.) Effy did not even want his height, weight, and hometown listed on his card as he said he just comes out to "This is Effy!" but he was OK with it when I told him it was a required format for the game. I am not advocating getting rid of height, weight, and hometown even for the Indy cards but I get what Ty is saying. Height, weight, and hometown can either be the easiest thing to write or- especially in the case of height- among the hardest. It is extremely easy to find that information for some feds like ROH or MLW (on tonight's Fusion for example they listed on the screen before tonight's main event Jacob Fatu at 6/1", 280 lbs, Samoa and Matt Cross at 5'8", 191 lbs, and Cleveland, OH) that info is very easy to get but often not so much for some feds like in IWTV. |
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Post by natureboi on Oct 7, 2021 1:22:11 GMT -5
Keep the heights and weights on all cards, even the indies. Even when somewhat kayfabed, it helps us visualize the wrestler. Not all of us have actually seen everybody. And what's the benefit of removing it?
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Post by TTX on Oct 7, 2021 4:16:30 GMT -5
I would hate not having the height, weight and hometown. It gives so much flavor even when we don't get exacts.
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