bear805
Infinity Challenge
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Post by bear805 on Apr 25, 2024 22:33:33 GMT -5
I would need to go back and read the storyline again on how the dark menace "tapped" into the hive mind to control them. might give better idea what type of hive mind the Aethrans are.
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Post by hexxstar on Apr 25, 2024 22:42:37 GMT -5
I would need to go back and read the storyline again on how the dark menace "tapped" into the hive mind to control them. might give better idea what type of hive mind the Aethrans are. To ~KB~ point, it’s pretty vague and open to interpretation. I just wanted to give a different point of view. |
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Post by malicelover on Apr 26, 2024 7:50:25 GMT -5
Sike's face turn for one year, Havoc's defection and the CIVAL WAR. These two, as ~KB~ noted, not to mention Mayhem's multiple changes (feuding with the Glads when he had his iconic smeared face-paint Aethran card) as a member of Krakan's team, not to mention Spike's face run, thank God that was aborted after only a cup of coffee (don't get me started on his having the Cleansing, and THEN joining the heroes, fighting against the Gladiators. If there is a hive mind, wouldn't they have been aware that Spike was going to do that, and, in theory, would have stopped his cleansing from happening?). To me the most glaring hive mind inconsistency was the Civil War. I get that it might be a collective consciousness, but if that's the case, why have infighting? Wouldn't it be in the hive mind's best interest to keep the BEST guys there - which in that case, at that time, would have been Brute, Massacre, Vengeance, Spike and Thrash? It just is a direction that I truly cannot wrap my brain around. Also, I stand by it, and it will be the island I die on, that a tremendous opportunity was missed for a Gladiator Civil War in 2139. Needless to say that by 2141, 40 years since the conclusion of the last Civil War, Barry's GWF will have a second one. |
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Post by ~KB~ on Apr 26, 2024 13:56:49 GMT -5
I don't know.... People can spin it anyway they want to, but IMO it was a copout. It was a way to write how the DM controlled the Gladiators, and ultimately made them look foolish. Disregarding 50 plus years of badass personalities, dominance, inner strife and multiple face and heel turns.
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Post by hexxstar on Apr 26, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5
I don't know.... People can spin it anyway they want to, but IMO it was a copout. It was a way to write how the DM controlled the Gladiators, and ultimately made them look foolish. Disregarding 50 plus years of badass personalities, dominance, inner strife and multiple face and heel turns. I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I personally don't like the storyline, I'm just trying to give benefit of doubt as to where it's going. I feel the Gladiators have been lost ever since Overmaster took over in 2124. I'd really just like to see all of the "legacy" teams gone and a new storyline began. |
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Post by steviedreamer on Apr 26, 2024 14:55:33 GMT -5
I don't know.... People can spin it anyway they want to, but IMO it was a copout. It was a way to write how the DM controlled the Gladiators, and ultimately made them look foolish. Disregarding 50 plus years of badass personalities, dominance, inner strife and multiple face and heel turns. Hey, KB, how about Tom explores the LGBTQ+ aspects of Aethran culture...?? That seems to never have been tapped, Bucthy Butch...  |
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Post by steviedreamer on Apr 26, 2024 14:56:56 GMT -5
Why doesn't some all-powerful entity or force come and blow up the entire planet of Aethra???! That would be the only answer here.
Speaking of blowing up, is everyone excited for the wedding at GC???!!
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Post by on_the_edge on Apr 26, 2024 16:18:37 GMT -5
I guess it is the age-old problem. Was a plot point added to make up for a previous mistake/desire to go in a different direction and needing that plot point OR was it always an idea that just had not been revealed. Only Tom would know the real truth. As someone that doesn't play cannon it does not affect my feds but I can see who someone that keeps their feds close to cannon could be upset. As ~KB~ it can be spun a dozen ways to Sunday. The beauty and curse of creativity. |
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Post by TOM on Apr 26, 2024 17:29:22 GMT -5
"I'm not sure which of those categories the Aethrans fall into specifically, but I think their "hivemind" is more of a vague telepathy than a full-on neural network."
This is the correct way to see it. A hive mind doesn't mean everyone thinks exactly the same way, but it helps explain the lack of progress of the Aethran race beyond an alpha male mentality that remains rooted in a warlike mindset. The human mind is somewhat similar. For thousands of years of evolution certain ways of thinking dominated the species and as everyone can see changes in ways of thinking have happened since then and still happening now. This is actually quite normal, and it would be natural for individual differences to still emerge within that general mindset.
I would argue that humans today are operating within a hive mind but that it is still evolving while the Aethrans natural progression was artificially interrupted.
This occurs even within our own individual lifetimes. It could be said small children have a "hive mind" in that they think certain ways and are as yet incapable of thinking like an adult in a cognitive manner. And yet children differ dramatically within that "hive mind" with their different personalities.
The Aethrans are a unique and special race in the universe, and I enjoyed exploring why that is the case.
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Post by TOM on Apr 26, 2024 17:42:33 GMT -5
"I'd really just like to see all of the "legacy" teams gone and a new storyline began."
That's an interesting point of view and kind of like saying Marvel should ditch the Avengers and X-Men and DC ditch the Justice League and start over. They haven't done that for a reason and probably the same reason as mine. It's an integral part of our universe. That doesn't mean new groups and storylines can't be added, but that it's a balancing act.
It's an interesting discussion.
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