Once per match?

[WTIC]

Hi

After watching throwingtoasters's recent unboxing video, I noticed one of the instructions was, "...this can occur once per match".

Now I've always played this kind of instruction as if you decided when to TRY it, and whether or not it connects, THAT is your "once per match".

The question here is: Does "once per match" mean you can continue to try it when the instruction is rolled UNTIL it is successful, or is this a "one TRY at it" kind of deal?

So yeah. Once per match meaning either a one roll try OR a try until it is used SUCCESSFULLY once?


I am curious as to how my fellow Promoters do this kind of instruction!

Todd C
WTIC

[CanadianPitbull]

"This can occure once per match" reads to me just as it states. I run this as you pick when you want to have the action happen and whether you succeed or fail it was your one and done for the match. So One Try and done per match.

[TTX]

I use it till it works which honestly isn't that big of an advantage

[Vegas]

Oct 8, 2024 17:49:48 GMT -5 TTX said:

I use it till it works which honestly isn't that big of an advantage

same here, if you go for the move but do not succeed then it did not actually "occur" or "happen," etc, it is different if it says the move can be "attempted" once per match

[Travis605]

I’m not sure what card he’s talking about , but my thought was these moves were high risk/reward thing and if you go for and miss, tough luck…hence the term “trying once per match” and not “keep trying until you hit the move”

[Pete]

It can only be successful once.

If they meant "can only be attempted once per match," then the card should say so. I'm not aware of any card that does.

[Vegas]

Oct 8, 2024 22:51:08 GMT -5 Pete said:

If they meant "can only be attempted once per match," then the card should say so. I'm not aware of any card that does.

well, for example, PCO has that on his card where there is a mechanic I wrote where as a 1 time substitute for his senton-2 "once per match PCO can attempt suicide bomb on apron- 3 Add 1" where the move works on a roll of 4-6 but misses on a roll of 1-3 with the opponent then taking over on Level 3 Offense. so definitley a high reward (possibly turning a 2 move into a 3 Add 1) vs high risk (the opponent taking over on Level 3) scenario

The reason I wrote that mechanic as 1 attempt per match is, because during his time in ROH when I worked on the card in Spring 2019, PCO was known for trying that high level move (andnot always hitting it) once almost every match (I recall that even the ROH commentators at the time mentioned it as about once per match) so it made sense that the verbiage on the card was consistent.

[paul]

Oct 8, 2024 17:49:48 GMT -5 TTX said:

I use it till it works which honestly isn't that big of an advantage

I do the same thing.

[Bazzy]

I just try it once, even if it works or not? I know my matches are shorter than most, sometimes I don't always risk rolling it on the first time I landed on it. Sometimes I feel its too early for that?

[CanadianPitbull]

I have always tried to take the rule(s) literally and not put any other spin on it. If it reads just as it says then there is no until it succeeds as that would hopefully be put on the card or in the rules as to the meaning of it. Plus some of these moves would only be attempted usually once during an actual match anyway you as the Promoter decide when that spot (succeed or fail) happens. Which creates the drama. Do I have the manager slide a prized item into the ring for their wrestler to win. I may only get away with it once but the possible reward is worth the possible risk and helps to tell a great story. But if one keeps going to the well too many times until it succeeds that doesn't seem to follow how the usual wrestling formula would go in a dramatic clash between good and evil as the classic matches were attempting to tell. I find then it kills the match especially depending on the gimmick if the heel or manager can pull off their dastardly deed multiple times as it would get old quick. Some managers do get a couple of shots at interfering in matches because that was part of their character.

I guess the thing is if the once per match fails you always have the manager/outside interference chart as a second shot at gaining an advantage or a win for the wrestler they manage in the case of it being a manager situation or a one and done for a singles wrestler. At the end of the day "It's YOUR FED PROMOTER!" you book it how you like.