Once per match?

[Swarm]

Oct 8, 2024 22:51:08 GMT -5 Pete said:

It can only be successful once.

If they meant "can only be attempted once per match," then the card should say so. I'm not aware of any card that does.

There are a few COTG guys like this. Move can be attempted once per match hit or miss. Usually followed by some roll instruction.

Shayne immediately comes to mind but I know there are more. Definitely some on Kronos. Big Superstar being the most recent example.

[the_faction]

Another one is Aethran Overmaster 2131 he has a defensive comeback move with the following verbiage: *Overmaster Rising can only be tried once per match.

So like others have said I take the literal tried or attempted as a one and done roll outcome in a match and cannot be rolled again. Whereas if the text says "can only occur once" I'll roll the attempt again if it didn't succeed in a previous attempt in said match.

[WTIC]

Oct 8, 2024 22:45:18 GMT -5 Travis605 said:

I’m not sure what card he’s talking about , but my thought was these moves were high risk/reward thing and if you go for and miss, tough luck…hence the term “trying once per match” and not “keep trying until you hit the move”

Hi

I referred to the video by throwingtoasters where he revealed the third card of the current Promoter Prime cards. That person has a Special Condition that I mentioned. Here is the video under a SPOILER for those who don't want to be spoiled:

SPOILER: Click to show

So yeah, thanks to everyone who answered!

Todd C
WTIC

[on_the_edge]

This is a good question and good discussion. Especially seeing the different opinions. Here is something to ponder. I think if depends on where "this can occur once per match" is listed. If right after the move then it would seem only once per match. If after what the move does, ie Add 1, +2 Pin, etc" then it can seem that the actual move can occur only once a match.

[WTIC]

Oct 9, 2024 17:54:40 GMT -5 on_the_edge said:

This is a good question and good discussion. Especially seeing the different opinions. Here is something to ponder. I think if depends on where "this can occur once per match" is listed. If right after the move then it would seem only once per match. If after what the move does, ie Add 1, +2 Pin, etc" then it can seem that the actual move can occur only once a match.

Hi

That's a "special condition" on the Special Condition!

It's all in the wording, I guess...

Todd C
WTIC

[Pete]

Oct 9, 2024 9:11:21 GMT -5 the_faction said:

Another one is Aethran Overmaster 2131 he has a defensive comeback move with the following verbiage: *Overmaster Rising can only be tried once per match.

So like others have said I take the literal tried or attempted as a one and done roll outcome in a match and cannot be rolled again. Whereas if the text says "can only occur once" I'll roll the attempt again if it didn't succeed in a previous attempt in said match.

This sums it up. That there are in fact cards that say, "can only be attempted once per match," to me, is definitive proof that "can only occur once per match" means you roll until it/if it happens.

Yes, obviously I have to drop the "up to you, promoter" caveat, but in my opinion these are the types of things that should have a consensus. For tournament play if nothing else.

[Humanoids4eva]

I liken it to when a heel tried to use a foreign object or throw fire. They keep trying and while sometimes thwarted they eventually pull
It off.

Macho Man using the object to win IC title off Tito or Lawler using a chain or fire. The anticipation of the deed makes the act much worse.

[sleazybmartini]

I try to stick to what the card says under most circumstances unless it wouldn't make sense to do so.

[Carlzilla]

While I'm not an official stat-writer by any stretch of the imagination, when I add this instruction to my bootlegs, it's always meant to be interpreted as the action described can only occur once per match, not that the roll may only be attempted once per match. This is also how I interpret the rule on other cards. So I always allow the roll to happen until it succeeds.

[barnestormer]

Once per match means "one and done", period.