Great Gama

[Shon Maxx]

Has anyone done a bootleg of this guy? I'd love to have him in my fed, and I'm guessing that the chances of getting him in LOW may pretty far off. I think a catch wrestler who was undefeated for years could be a cool character to have for the game.

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Is there even enough footage to watch to where you'd really be able to make a card of him?

[kingwiththeax]

Jul 6, 2009 20:47:48 GMT -5 @switchfoot said:

Is there even enough footage to watch to where you'd really be able to make a card of him?

Wrestling fans are very resourceful. I am sure there wasn't a lot of Terrible Turk footage around, and he even got an official card. I am sure there is info on wrestling sites and Wiki where a card could be pieced together. It would be a really strong card though, being undefeated for that number of years.

[Shon Maxx]

Jul 6, 2009 23:44:05 GMT -5 kingwiththeax said:

Jul 6, 2009 20:47:48 GMT -5 @switchfoot said:

Is there even enough footage to watch to where you'd really be able to make a card of him?

Wrestling fans are very resourceful. I am sure there wasn't a lot of Terrible Turk footage around, and he even got an official card. I am sure there is info on wrestling sites and Wiki where a card could be pieced together. It would be a really strong card though, being undefeated for that number of years.

Yeah,I've been trying to research him, but all I can find is the undefeated streak.

[Knapik]

Jul 6, 2009 23:44:05 GMT -5 kingwiththeax said:

Jul 6, 2009 20:47:48 GMT -5 @switchfoot said:

Is there even enough footage to watch to where you'd really be able to make a card of him?

Wrestling fans are very resourceful. I am sure there wasn't a lot of Terrible Turk footage around, and he even got an official card. I am sure there is info on wrestling sites and Wiki where a card could be pieced together. It would be a really strong card though, being undefeated for that number of years.

There are all sorts of tricks to getting moves for guys. The easiest way is to watch footage and write down moves, habits, etc. Next you have wikipedia, onlineworldofwrestling, and other sites you'll come across as you search (i.e. www.geocities.com/wrestlingscout). There is nothing wrong with aiding from someone else's knowledge!

Then there are some advanced techniques. Say you know one or two signature moves from a wrestler, but can't find much else and you just need a couple more good moves. Try searching with the wrestler's name and a couple signature moves you know and often you'll find lists of moves and - and this is a HUGE resource - RECAPS. Recaps are the secret weapon in Legends bootlegging. You can find very detailed recaps of wrestling events if you dig enough... even entire series of shows! The recapper will often be very detailed, and you can pull a lot from this.

Some guys will be impossible, but there's also nothing wrong with using some common sense when going after wrestlers with little-to-no research. I'm sure the Legends team did this with Turk and maybe others. If you come across a bio that says "Wrestler Man used a lot of leglocks" you can bet if he was older that would include things like toe holds!

I need to make a Wrestler Man bootleg! haha

[Knapik]

Also, there is a Great Gama somewhere... I think Pete Fusco did one, but I can't find it

[Knapik]

So while looking at his bio, you can see he was a traditional wrestler who used catch wrestling and a variety of throws and takedowns. He used throws to neutralize his equals and throws to dismantle anyone else quickly. There is a good base for a Gama card right there!

Take a look at the very first part of his biography:

"The encounter between Gulam and Cour-Derelli took place at the hippodrome in the Boulevard de Clichy, today the Bostock Hippodrome.

From the beginning of the bout Gulam demonstrated a crushing superiority over the Turk Cour-Derelli. As soon as the whistle signalled that the two contestants could come to grips, the Hindu, agile and swift, sprang on his adversary and threw him with a marvellous "flying mare (tour de bras)." Both of his shoulders touched the mat but, as this match brought into play big financial interests, after interminable discussions, the throw was not admitted and the bout recommenced.

Several times the Hindu used his terrible arm roll and each time Cour-Derelli rolled on his two shoulders, but got up at once. Finally, realising that his opponent was too strong, the Turk decided to crouch down on the mat, and not budge from that position for an hour and a half. He was content only to defend himself against the attacks of Gulam, who, tired of all this, invited him to get up, and to emphasize his contempt at the incorrect attitude of his opponent, he punctuated his invitation with several kicks to the kidneys. But Cour-Derelli, who probably found it fine where he was, did not wish to get back up when the judge signalled him; Cour-Derelli seemed rooted to the mat for the whole match. Finally, the only recourse was to the points system, and, to avoid harming those [financial] interests of which we spoke above, the bets were called off. It was declared that Cour-Derelli had not been thrown, Gulam was proclaimed the winner, but all bets were reimbursed. "

flying mare! kicks to kidneys! And that's just the first match described! These bootlegs are the most fun to do... the ones that you have to dig deep for.

ejmas.com/jalt/jaltart_noble_0502.htm

[TTX]

hmmm the issue is that.....that's Gulam not Gama (different guys)

But they do mention later, half nelson with a roll, and a body hold(probably some sort of bear hug) plus judo throw. So there's a start. Also a leg hold and a back heel kick. I'm getting tempted to stat him. Thinking a -2 agility and -2 power as well.

[Shon Maxx]

-2 pw and ag? Wow; I was going with -3, -1, but that was just a case. I wonder what his finisher would be. He doesn't seem like a submission wrestler so it'd probably be some kind of slam.

And DON'T YOU DARE say airplane spin!!!

[TTX]

The reason I'm thinking -2 power is based on the fact at 200 pounds he was tossing around 275-280 pounders with relative ease. However, I wouldn't go more than that simply becuase he was 5'7 and 200 lbs. Also seemed to be very quick and agile.