How do you guys/gals translate this?

[thewordbeforelast]

Thantos is the Galaxian Champion since the beginning of my 2087. Wol and Star Warrior and so many others have tried to wrest it from around his waste. No dice here. he's an animal- and we all know that. BUT- in the first round of the Galaxian Title Tourney, Star Warrior bested Renegade. I rolled on the out of ring chart- and Renegade was counted out. He couldn't get back into the ring even with Beastrider's help (BR accompanied him to ringside.) How do you guys see this? What would Star Warrior do to Renegade outside the ring that would leave the wild man down and out for the count? Would it be a high cross body from the apron (my option and I used it to explain away the situation)? Does Star Warrior go ape outside the ring on his opponent? I thought that he only did this when he was Avenging Warrior....?? Your thoughts, kids??

[Biggin]

I like the option you used. According to the 2087 booklet, Star Warrior is a hero and the leader of the Federation Defense Fighters. I think he just wants to wrestle (whether it's in the ring or out) and put on a good show for the spectators.

It's cool to hear that you are dealing with situations like this, too. Star Warrior was doing some strange things in my fed as well. These strange occurrences where getting to be common enough that it was hard to explain away, and Star Warrior almost made a heel turn. Omga had to coax him back onto the right path.

[amazingbadger]

Could just say it's an accident. Like Renegade rolled to the outside and Star Warrior dove over the top onto him or something, causing him to impact the ring barrier/steel steps/whatever, resulting in Renegade being knocked out.

[doublea]

YOu could just go simple. Warrior threw Renegade out and Renegade hurt his ACL, something like that. Pretty simple.

Even as the ultimate hero, Warrior goes out to check on him with the ref couting for a double count out when Beast Rider, who was with Renegade at ringside, tells Warrior to get back in...Renegade is hurt and they need the belt on the hero side of things and Warrior is their best hope.

Pretty simple, but could make an effective storyline.

[cotguy130]

They're all good options, but I would've used Double A's. It takes any negative onus off of SW at all.

I once had Lord Nexux, of all people, get DQd 3 or 4 times in a row. His roll target is 4 . This would've been slightly understandable versus Krakan's crew. But no, he was in a "friendly feud" with Wolf over the title. The best I could come up with was that Wolf being Wolf, he fought no differently versus Nexus than anyone else. Nexus expected scientific wrestling from Wolf (lol), and got frustrated. When he decided to fight fire with fire, so to speak, he got caught since he didn't have the experience at shortcuts. It got so irritating that I had Omega take him out of contention because he didn't like what the feud was doing to his friend. It was weak, but it allowed a change of direction without disrupting everything.

[doublea]

Sept 19, 2009 2:36:30 GMT -5 cotguy130 said:

They're all good options, but I would've used Double A's. It takes any negative onus off of SW at all.

I once had Lord Nexux, of all people, get DQd 3 or 4 times in a row. His roll target is 4 . This would've been slightly understandable versus Krakan's crew. But no, he was in a "friendly feud" with Wolf over the title. The best I could come up with was that Wolf being Wolf, he fought no differently versus Nexus than anyone else. Nexus expected scientific wrestling from Wolf (lol), and got frustrated. When he decided to fight fire with fire, so to speak, he got caught since he didn't have the experience at shortcuts. It got so irritating that I had Omega take him out of contention because he didn't like what the feud was doing to his friend. It was weak, but it allowed a change of direction without disrupting everything.

That's honestly not a bad scenario. I've had that problems with the face vs face DQ and it throws the proverbial "monkey wrench" into the plans.

I've did things such as a sneaky heel plants a chair or chain in the ring and will point it out to the ref. The face tries to explain, but the ref "sees what he sees" and the DQ stands. This makes the face irate and in search of revenge for the sneaky plan of the heel.

[cotguy130]

Thank you, D A. When I first started playing, I wrote down every result exactly as the dice/chart rolled out., with no creative spin. I don't know how many times Star Warrior beat Thantos by CO after piledriving him on the floor.

Some hero, huh?

Even if you take into account his anger at Thantos' code-breaking actions, piledrivers on the floor by a good guy, in multiple matches, are hard to justify.

[Trent Lawless]

I think the key to making the mechanics of COTG work without getting bogged down in Tom having to overexplain things on charts (or having charts so convoluted no one would want to use them except hard-core D&D people) is for promoters to come up with creative interpretations of chart results like those described here. Imagination is key.

[cotguy130]

You're exactly right. My earliest interpretation of a "by the book" fed meant exactly that-by the book, by the dice, by the charts. It takes alot of the fun out of it. Tom's balance between structure and flexibility is solid.