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Post by Scott Fire 54 on May 21, 2010 12:14:26 GMT -5
When making a bootleg, how many matches do you watch for research on a moveset?
Just curious...
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Post by Demosthenes on May 21, 2010 12:33:03 GMT -5
Depends. On guys I don't know much about, I watch about 5 matches or so. This is usually LotF type guys. An example would be Alyx Winters (an indy wrestler I am still working on).
On guys I do know a lot about, I like to base them around a famous match, if possible. An example would be Ricky Steamboat. I know a lot about Steamboat, but I based my bootleg card around his famous WM III match.
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Post by du5tin on May 21, 2010 13:49:04 GMT -5
There are a few people on YouTube that put together "Top Ten Moves of ______" and they help.
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Post by barnestormer on May 21, 2010 14:08:09 GMT -5
When I make my bootleg cards for the local wrestlers in Unified Independent Wrestling, I actually go to the Independent Pro Wrestling shows at the Merchant's Flea Market in Dayton with a clipboard full of notebook paper and write down each new move I see the wrestler I'm looking to create actually perform in the ring. Then once I get about 20-25 moves from that person, I'll let them know what I'm doing and ask them about what they use as a finishing move. The good thing about local wrestlers is that they're very helpful and are very appreciative about what I'm doing. (I guess they feel they need all of the exposure they can get.) If I can find them on MySpace or Facebook, I'll friend them and message them about their characters, as well, which comes in handy when I'm trying to get their bio info for the top right corner of the card.
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Post by Scott Fire 54 on May 21, 2010 15:21:27 GMT -5
When I make my bootleg cards for the local wrestlers in Unified Independent Wrestling, I actually go to the Independent Pro Wrestling shows at the Merchant's Flea Market in Dayton with a clipboard full of notebook paper and write down each new move I see the wrestler I'm looking to create actually perform in the ring. Then once I get about 20-25 moves from that person, I'll let them know what I'm doing and ask them about what they use as a finishing move. The good thing about local wrestlers is that they're very helpful and are very appreciative about what I'm doing. (I guess they feel they need all of the exposure they can get.) If I can find them on MySpace or Facebook, I'll friend them and message them about their characters, as well, which comes in handy when I'm trying to get their bio info for the top right corner of the card. This is along the same lines of what I was thinking of doing. I'm starting to make cards of a local indy fed here in Michigan called Victory Indepent Pro Wrestling, and I have most of the guys on MySpace. First target, "The Hebrew Hammer" Joseph Schwartz...
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 16:18:39 GMT -5
For some guys that I know well enough, I fill most of the card out and then watch a match or two, sometimes more. On guys who I'm not as familiar with (this is the case with the Charly Manson I made last year), it takes several matches, I think for Charly it took me around 8 or so matches because either he did the same stuff all match, got beat down most of the match, or both.
So it varies, I guess.
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Post by hotfuzz1980 on May 21, 2010 19:01:02 GMT -5
I used wikipedia quite a bit. I know wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source, but it has worked well for me.
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Post by tystates on May 21, 2010 21:09:10 GMT -5
I watch every thing I have of whoever I'm doing a card for. A handful of matches isn't enough for me to start statting someone. For Del Rey and Haze I went over easily 25 or so matches before doing the card.
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Post by du5tin on May 21, 2010 22:31:46 GMT -5
I watch every thing I have of whoever I'm doing a card for. A handful of matches isn't enough for me to start statting someone. For Del Rey and Haze I went over easily 25 or so matches before doing the card. ...and that is why you're AWESOME!
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Post by jasonjaconetti on May 22, 2010 16:53:34 GMT -5
I used wikipedia quite a bit. I know wikipedia isn't always the most accurate source, but it has worked well for me. The upside of Wikipedia usually out-weighs the negatives. I definately use it as well in making bootlegs. {I also use its lists of moves and variantions when I make COTG boots} I watch a bunch of matches (depending on the wrestler) to make sure that I can be as accurate as possible.
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