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Post by Trent Lawless on Apr 11, 2008 16:16:44 GMT -5
I have my own version of the champ's advantage rule which is a bit different than the above, although I didn't always used to. I just got really tired of champs only defending the title maybe three times at the most before it switched, because for me that was less than a month. I just like the idea of having a champ get somewhat built up, so that when there is a title change, it means more than if it changes every other time it's defended. Works pretty well. Most of my title reigns go a couple months at least now.
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Post by livingdeadchild on Apr 11, 2008 16:23:19 GMT -5
Would you be so kind as to explain the rule to us, Trent Lawless. We are in eager anticaption.
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Post by roninnoir on Apr 11, 2008 23:58:59 GMT -5
I use the Desperation Move charts that are available on this message board...that's the only champions advantage I use...a heel champ gets the opportunity for a cheap low-blow, walking out for a countout, etc...or the face hulks up, etc...and, OCCASIONALLY, I let the challenger use the charts as well.
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Post by lwffantrav on Apr 12, 2008 0:17:56 GMT -5
I use the Desperation Move charts that are available on this message board...that's the only champions advantage I use...a heel champ gets the opportunity for a cheap low-blow, walking out for a countout, etc...or the face hulks up, etc...and, OCCASIONALLY, I let the challenger use the charts as well. That's not a bad chart. I may have to use it. I use the one Stu Lowery and the Olsens have on their board (Strategy Pin Chart)
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Post by Trav on Apr 12, 2008 15:18:36 GMT -5
when my champion get pinned he rolls to be pinned 2x's, both need to be successful pins for him to lose. I've seen a few people do this and I just can't see the logic in this. Why exactly do people do this? I know people don't like the title changing hands alot, but the GWF/LWF isn't a "work", it's a "shoot", so , in a real life situation, the title may change hands alot. So if you do this, please explain why. I can never figure out why someone would do this. I'm not one of the ones who answered this so far, but I do it just because I feel that a title is given an air of prestige when it doesn't change hands as frequently. However, it hasn't even been an issue as of yet in my Early Classics fed because Omega has absolutely dominated the competition, and Dorado Sundown has done the same. When Dorado Sundown won the titles from Torin Caelum & Ricken Prince, I could have rolled the pin a hundred times and the results would have been the same. I guess I'm just not big into fluke wins. Rolling the pin multiple times allows the possibility that a fluke win can happen, but it's not as likely. I most likely will not use this rule when the Interplanetary and Heavy Metal/Special Matches/WarGames titles are introduced just because I don't feel that their prestige are affected the same as the primary title is when they change hands frequently.
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Post by Vegas on Apr 12, 2008 15:31:40 GMT -5
In both my COTG and my LOW feds, I personally also use the house rule that the champion has to role his PIN twice in a row on a pin or submission attempt in order to lose their title. As others have said, I like how it decreases the chance that your title will be constantly changing hands (and I have noticed that it has indeed limited the number of title changes for me as I am playing my matches). And when the title does change hands, it makes it even more meaningful.
It just works for me and I use it consistently for whoever is my current champion and I also use it for my tag team champions and the all the rest of my champions.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Apr 12, 2008 16:32:30 GMT -5
Would you be so kind as to explain the rule to us, Trent Lawless. We are in eager anticaption. Basically once the champ rolls under his PIN number for the first time, the challenger then has to "pin" him four more times (five total) to win the belt. Fatigue numbers continue to go up, so it does get easier to beat him. But conversely, let's say the champ has been "pinned" three times. In order for him to come back and win, he has to get the challenger to roll under his PIN number four times to win the match. It actually happens somewhat frequently. Not even sure that makes sense, but it does in my own head.
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Post by j on Apr 14, 2008 12:32:21 GMT -5
when my champion get pinned he rolls to be pinned 2x's, both need to be successful pins for him to lose. I've seen a few people do this and I just can't see the logic in this. Why exactly do people do this? I know people don't like the title changing hands alot, but the GWF/LWF isn't a "work", it's a "shoot", so , in a real life situation, the title may change hands alot. So if you do this, please explain why. I can never figure out why someone would do this. like a few other guys explained, I don't like fluke champions. In the early days of my GWF, Vanity beat Chaos for the World title one day. I also feel the title has more prestige when there is a dominant champion, my NWA World title was at its best when Buddy Rogers had a 1 1/2 reign as champion. I just never liked it when guys would keep losing in the 1st defense of the title.
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Post by dukedave on Apr 14, 2008 13:08:19 GMT -5
I use 2 rolls in a championship only if the champ is defending the title on my weekly show. If it's PPV, I go back to one because the guy getting the title shot has earned a fair fight by earning the PPV title shot. Plus, it makes most of the title changes occur at PPV's which is the way it should be.
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Post by kingwiththeax on Apr 19, 2008 11:39:42 GMT -5
I use 2 rolls in a championship only if the champ is defending the title on my weekly show. If it's PPV, I go back to one because the guy getting the title shot has earned a fair fight by earning the PPV title shot. Plus, it makes most of the title changes occur at PPV's which is the way it should be. This is what I do also, pretty much for the same reasons. I want my belts defended frequently, but I dont want the title changing hands every couple of weeks. Ironically, the only title change I have had so far has been on a house show, where The Sandman defeated Sabu for the XTREME championship, mainly my hardcore/no DQ belt. My World Championship has had a couple of close calls, but The Road Warriors have destroyed everyone in their path in defending the tag titles. Was toying with the idea of bringing in the Million Dollar Belt, and making that one "2 falls" everytime it is defended, but not sure if im gonna do that or not.
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