chunkyt
Infinity Challenge
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Post by chunkyt on Apr 22, 2008 10:58:13 GMT -5
Hi this is probably just something I have missed but what is the general rule for wrestlers who have a tag finisher in a singles match?
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Post by loneriders1 on Apr 22, 2008 11:21:20 GMT -5
I usally say that the match was won with a non-finisher move or just make the tag finisher a singles move with a zero.
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Post by jmello on Apr 22, 2008 12:12:24 GMT -5
It's suppose to be a re-roll on level 3 offense until they get a different move. They just don't have a finisher in singles matches, unless it's specially noted on their card that their tag can become a singles finisher.
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Post by lwffantrav on Apr 22, 2008 12:32:27 GMT -5
Hi this is probably just something I have missed but what is the general rule for wrestlers who have a tag finisher in a singles match? We talked about this a couple weeks ago. Havoc made a good rule which I currently use. If you get a tag finisher, or any kind of tag option, and the person is in singles competition, we use it like a (c) option and move up a level of offense. It's working great so far in what little I've had to use it. Good rule |
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Post by roninnoir on Apr 22, 2008 14:18:02 GMT -5
Yeah, the "Havoc Rule" can REALLY change the tone of a match...I had Animal facing Strangler Lewis (LWF, obviously) and Animal hit DOOMSDAY DEVICE, so he had to re-roll on Level 2, and got Spike Piledriver, so he had to bump up to Level 1...a clear sign of a tag specialist getting lost without his partner present.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Apr 22, 2008 14:32:22 GMT -5
Interesting rule, but I'd like to think that certain, if not most, tag guys can actually function in singles matches and would adjust their approach accordingly, rather than being "lost." I reroll on the same level.
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Post by wildfire on Apr 22, 2008 14:43:46 GMT -5
I don't like re-rolling, so I do the following:
For (tag) moves, I decrease the power of the move by 1, assuming the move is still done, but is less effective.... so a 3 (tag) move would become a 2... or an add 1 move would become just a 3.
If the guy has only a tag Finisher,generally, I substitute a (0) finisher for the move, if it makes sense.... sometimes I'll make it a +1 if I think it should be one. OTOH, if the guy has a singles and tag finisher (like Badger) I make it a 3 move (really, the singles finisher is used on a '6' and the '5' spot becomes a -3 move)
Naturally, if it specifies what to do in singles on the card, I go with that.
I think most people doing bootlegs these days put something on the card.. I think that's the way to go, unless the guy is such a tag specialist he would never wrestle singles (which is massively rare in today's wrestling)
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Post by roninnoir on Apr 22, 2008 16:01:10 GMT -5
Interesting rule, but I'd like to think that certain, if not most, tag guys can actually function in singles matches and would adjust their approach accordingly, rather than being "lost." I reroll on the same level. The problem with that is, as mentioned in the original thread, say you have a guy with a singles finisher and a tag finisher...re-rolling on the same level makes him STRONGER in singles matches, because it improves the odds of him hitting his singles finisher (from 1 in 6 to 1 in 5). It also provides perfectly plausible reasons why The Road Warriors could kill, say, Ric Flair and Arn Anderson in a tag match, but neither Hawk or Animal was ever able to pin Flair in a singles match. I mean, I can see your point, but I DEFINITELY see the problem with tag guys getting TOO strong in singles matches. |
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Post by Trent Lawless on Apr 22, 2008 16:24:39 GMT -5
Good point, but quite often those guys are weaker on defense already in singles matches because they can't tag out, and many don't have a lot of turnarounds otherwise. Not always, but that's the general way they look.
I usually keep tag guys in tag action, anyway, so I don't run into this difficulty often. Maybe that's why I've never thought about the 1-in-5 thing.
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Post by lwffantrav on Apr 22, 2008 16:32:13 GMT -5
Yeah, the "Havoc Rule" can REALLY change the tone of a match...I had Animal facing Strangler Lewis (LWF, obviously) and Animal hit DOOMSDAY DEVICE, so he had to re-roll on Level 2, and got Spike Piledriver, so he had to bump up to Level 1...a clear sign of a tag specialist getting lost without his partner present. I don't have the card on hand, but I can see that happening to Sleeze's 2108 card (I think it was 2108). Seemed like he had like 5 tag options on that card |
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