Post by Vegas on Sept 26, 2011 21:50:24 GMT -5
The White Sox tonight reportedly traded their manager Ozzie Guillen to the Florida Marlins:
Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was traded to the Marlins for two minor league players, according to a source close to the situation.
Guillen gathered his players before Monday's game against the Toronto Blue Jays and told them that it would be his final one, according to sources close to the situation.
Guillen met with team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf earlier Monday, and he said he left the meeting with "nothing."
Guillen's contract is set to expire after the 2012 season. About a month ago he said he wouldn't return for the final year of his contract unless he gets an extension.
"We talked about different things, my future here, how we're going to do it and what we think about the ballclub, what we want, and I left the meeting with nothing," Guillen said before the game. "We have to wait.
"I showed him how I feel, the way I always do. He talked to me about how he feels about me, myself, my family, the team and the organization. But I left there -- I'm not going to say empty-handed -- because I left there with my ideas. I left there with what I want (to say), what I should do, and that's it."
The Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier Monday that Guillen was close to a managerial deal with the Marlins. Current Marlins manager Jack McKeon announced Monday that he would retire at the end of the season.
Guillen's son, Ozzie Guillen Jr., sent a tweet from his account Monday night: "(...) thank you to all the great white sox fans who always showed support. Chicago the best city in the world will always be home."
The Marlins are opening a new ballpark next season and had contacted the White Sox in the past about trading for the manager. Guillen was Florida's third-base coach in 2003 when they won the World Series, and he left for the White Sox the following season, but he maintained a home in Miami.
"You never hear me talk about (the Marlins)," Guillen said. "I never say the word 'Marlins' out of my mouth, no. That's their problem.
"If they want me, they should. (Expletive) it. I'm bad. I'm good at what I do. They should. Everybody can want me, it's one thing if they can get me. It's not easy, like 'OK, I want to get you, come here and do it.' No, that's a process. If the Marlins are interested in me, good for them. I'm open to anything."
Reinsdorf admitted in March that Florida made overtures about trading for Guillen after Fredi Gonzalez left, but the teams couldn't agree on compensation.
"I love Ozzie, but if Ozzie didn't want to be here, I would consider letting him out of his contract, but not for nothing," Reinsdorf said at the time. "So, I said to the Marlins, if you want to talk to him, we have to agree on what we get if he decides to leave. We couldn't agree on that.
"If we had been able to agree, Ozzie probably still wouldn't have left. We couldn't have traded him and we would have tried to keep him. I would have gone to Ozzie and said, 'OK, the Marlins want to talk to you and we've given them permission to talk to you, but I hope to God you don't leave.' It would have been his decision, not our decision."
Guillen has a close relationship with Reinsdorf but noted the owner, who also runs the NBA's Chicago Bulls, has parted ways with more famous employees than him, such as former Bulls coach Phil Jackson.
"Jerry fired me as a player," Guillen said. "This is a business. Jerry is a businessman with a lot of passion for what he does. Jerry has gotten rid of a few people more important than me.
"Believe me, it's not easy for me and him to have that type of conversation. It's very painful. But this is a business. I want to know what's my status. That's the only thing I can do in life, is baseball. I make my money out of baseball. It's hard for me to put this man in that situation."
Guillen has framed his decision in simple terms: Extend him or let him go.
"Right now we have a couple of games to decide what's going on, but nothing was resolved," Guillen said. "I told him I don't like to come here with the same contract I have for next year. I think I need a little bit more than that. Right now I hope we meet again before I go (on vacation to Spain on Friday)."
Guillen is believed to be in line to make around $2 million next season with the White Sox.
Guillen has said that he has always allowed the White Sox to fill in his salary, but he wants more say in the process this time.
Only Jimmy Dykes and Al Lopez have won more games as White Sox manager than Guillen, who led the club to the World Series title in 2005. Now in his eighth year at the helm, Guillen said he never expected to ride the coattails of that championship forever.
The White Sox were expected to contend for the AL Central title this year, but have struggled to the third sub-.500 finish during Guillen's tenure.
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Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was traded to the Marlins for two minor league players, according to a source close to the situation.
Guillen gathered his players before Monday's game against the Toronto Blue Jays and told them that it would be his final one, according to sources close to the situation.
Guillen met with team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf earlier Monday, and he said he left the meeting with "nothing."
Guillen's contract is set to expire after the 2012 season. About a month ago he said he wouldn't return for the final year of his contract unless he gets an extension.
"We talked about different things, my future here, how we're going to do it and what we think about the ballclub, what we want, and I left the meeting with nothing," Guillen said before the game. "We have to wait.
"I showed him how I feel, the way I always do. He talked to me about how he feels about me, myself, my family, the team and the organization. But I left there -- I'm not going to say empty-handed -- because I left there with my ideas. I left there with what I want (to say), what I should do, and that's it."
The Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier Monday that Guillen was close to a managerial deal with the Marlins. Current Marlins manager Jack McKeon announced Monday that he would retire at the end of the season.
Guillen's son, Ozzie Guillen Jr., sent a tweet from his account Monday night: "(...) thank you to all the great white sox fans who always showed support. Chicago the best city in the world will always be home."
The Marlins are opening a new ballpark next season and had contacted the White Sox in the past about trading for the manager. Guillen was Florida's third-base coach in 2003 when they won the World Series, and he left for the White Sox the following season, but he maintained a home in Miami.
"You never hear me talk about (the Marlins)," Guillen said. "I never say the word 'Marlins' out of my mouth, no. That's their problem.
"If they want me, they should. (Expletive) it. I'm bad. I'm good at what I do. They should. Everybody can want me, it's one thing if they can get me. It's not easy, like 'OK, I want to get you, come here and do it.' No, that's a process. If the Marlins are interested in me, good for them. I'm open to anything."
Reinsdorf admitted in March that Florida made overtures about trading for Guillen after Fredi Gonzalez left, but the teams couldn't agree on compensation.
"I love Ozzie, but if Ozzie didn't want to be here, I would consider letting him out of his contract, but not for nothing," Reinsdorf said at the time. "So, I said to the Marlins, if you want to talk to him, we have to agree on what we get if he decides to leave. We couldn't agree on that.
"If we had been able to agree, Ozzie probably still wouldn't have left. We couldn't have traded him and we would have tried to keep him. I would have gone to Ozzie and said, 'OK, the Marlins want to talk to you and we've given them permission to talk to you, but I hope to God you don't leave.' It would have been his decision, not our decision."
Guillen has a close relationship with Reinsdorf but noted the owner, who also runs the NBA's Chicago Bulls, has parted ways with more famous employees than him, such as former Bulls coach Phil Jackson.
"Jerry fired me as a player," Guillen said. "This is a business. Jerry is a businessman with a lot of passion for what he does. Jerry has gotten rid of a few people more important than me.
"Believe me, it's not easy for me and him to have that type of conversation. It's very painful. But this is a business. I want to know what's my status. That's the only thing I can do in life, is baseball. I make my money out of baseball. It's hard for me to put this man in that situation."
Guillen has framed his decision in simple terms: Extend him or let him go.
"Right now we have a couple of games to decide what's going on, but nothing was resolved," Guillen said. "I told him I don't like to come here with the same contract I have for next year. I think I need a little bit more than that. Right now I hope we meet again before I go (on vacation to Spain on Friday)."
Guillen is believed to be in line to make around $2 million next season with the White Sox.
Guillen has said that he has always allowed the White Sox to fill in his salary, but he wants more say in the process this time.
Only Jimmy Dykes and Al Lopez have won more games as White Sox manager than Guillen, who led the club to the World Series title in 2005. Now in his eighth year at the helm, Guillen said he never expected to ride the coattails of that championship forever.
The White Sox were expected to contend for the AL Central title this year, but have struggled to the third sub-.500 finish during Guillen's tenure.
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