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Post by johnandryan on Nov 26, 2011 11:57:46 GMT -5
Swarm - I did watch and remembering your comments from earlier in the week (see above).
One thing that is sticking out with me is the lack of continuity in booking plans. But rather than blame the writers, I think it has become the nature of the audience that the writers are writing for. I would love to know what the current WWE demographic is that watches the majority of the shows and if they are still going for the 18-35 year olds. It seems to me that rather than draw out feuds for them over the course of months, it has become the norm for blink and you miss it playlets. It could be this way for DB.
At the same time, maybe it is what the audience now expects. In analogous terms, they would rather watch the movie and then get on with their lives, than look up the character to see their body of work on IMDB.
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Post by Sickman on Nov 26, 2011 14:12:19 GMT -5
Swarm - I did watch and remembering your comments from earlier in the week (see above). One thing that is sticking out with me is the lack of continuity in booking plans. But rather than blame the writers, I think it has become the nature of the audience that the writers are writing for. I would love to know what the current WWE demographic is that watches the majority of the shows and if they are still going for the 18-35 year olds. It seems to me that rather than draw out feuds for them over the course of months, it has become the norm for blink and you miss it playlets. It could be this way for DB. At the same time, maybe it is what the audience now expects. In analogous terms, they would rather watch the movie and then get on with their lives, than look up the character to see their body of work on IMDB. Rob and I talked about this the other day. One of the best shows on tv right now is Sons of Anarchy because of the slow build the story has. Now, obviously wrestling will never be what it used to be when stories were told in the ring. And I don't think every story needs to have the slow build. But there should be some sort of happy medium. Everyone doesn't have the attention span of a goldfish. |
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Post by Crimson Cross on Nov 26, 2011 14:30:35 GMT -5
Swarm - I did watch and remembering your comments from earlier in the week (see above). One thing that is sticking out with me is the lack of continuity in booking plans. But rather than blame the writers, I think it has become the nature of the audience that the writers are writing for. I would love to know what the current WWE demographic is that watches the majority of the shows and if they are still going for the 18-35 year olds. It seems to me that rather than draw out feuds for them over the course of months, it has become the norm for blink and you miss it playlets. It could be this way for DB. At the same time, maybe it is what the audience now expects. In analogous terms, they would rather watch the movie and then get on with their lives, than look up the character to see their body of work on IMDB. Rob and I talked about this the other day. One of the best shows on tv right now is Sons of Anarchy because of the slow build the story has. Now, obviously wrestling will never be what it used to be when stories were told in the ring. And I don't think every story needs to have the slow build. But there should be some sort of happy medium. Everyone doesn't have the attention span of a goldfish. This is the same for The Walking Dead with building on the stories and I agree the WWE could have a decent middle ground, but this truly is a different era of the WWE and it's No Longer Our WWF we grew up on... |
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Post by Sickman on Nov 26, 2011 14:33:21 GMT -5
True, but there's 7 pages of Walking Dead fandom so I decided to give SOA much needed love!!
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Post by vx on Nov 26, 2011 15:17:23 GMT -5
I don't really think this is a new phenomenon though. I'll give you an example. One of the possibly most overused examples of everything that has been and is wrong with WWE.
Katie Vick.
But I'm going to give you a different view of the Katie Vick fiasco as it relates to this topic.
The Katie Vick story lasted less than 2 months. For as long as it took for them to promote and then have the Triple H-Kane PPV match.
And then, at least as far as a story/plot device goes, Katie Vick was never mentioned again. (Thankfully)
The point here is, short-attention-span-theater storylines in WWE isn't a new phenomenon. Maybe it's some of us (you) who have changed and not the show. This has been an ongoing formula for years with WWE. Tell a story that builds up to a PPV and then, as soon as the PPV is over, totally drop that story and act as if it never happened.
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Post by Sickman on Nov 26, 2011 19:23:05 GMT -5
As I said, there should be a happy medium. Some stories only need 2 months or even less. But a potentially great story, like what could have been with CM Punk, should go longer. Thats the complaint.
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Post by vx on Nov 26, 2011 20:25:42 GMT -5
It's not just that. They aren't even true to the story they claim to be trying to tell.
Two similar stories. One from 20 years ago compared to one from just a year ago if that long ago.
Remember when Warrior beat Macho Man in the retirement match? Macho Man moved into the booth and WWF stayed true to that story. Months later when they turned Macho Man face and had Jake and Undertaker ruin his wedding party, Macho Man wanted revenge but was blocked at every turn because he had been forced to retire. He had to apply and reapply for reinstatement before he could finally return to the ring.
By way of comparison, John Cena was fired and yet every single week was still backstage in the locker room and running into the ring and the only thing that actually held true to the idea that he was fired was that he wasn't allowed to compete in an actual match. How many work places do you know where an employee is fired and yet allowed to go free any time they want into places where only employees are allowed to be?
WWE has story lines that have no reason for existing, they don't hold true to the storylines that do make sense and as soon as a storyline is finished (some without a real conclusion except that the PPV match the story was used to build has taken place) they act like it never happened.
Pro wrestlig used to be called soap operas for men as kind of a joke.
The way wrestling is written today .....
it's no longer a joke.
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