|
|
Post by SuperNaturalX on Jun 8, 2009 15:31:34 GMT -5
Bottom line, Tom did not build it up to the level everyone thinks, he said a unique signing that would be different than the norm. People built it up to something that almost no one but like Ric Flair would be the accepted. Bryan Danielson more than meets what Tom promised.
And just for note, I would rather PAY Danielson to work than get DDP to work for FREE!!!! period.
|
|
|
|
Post by eddydeanclassic on Jun 8, 2009 15:36:37 GMT -5
I have watched wrestling since about '85. I have seen all sorts of styles since then. I have actually seen Danielson wrestle live and seen him on HDnet (though that's now gone, thanks Time Warner). That all being said, he does nothing for me. Is he a good wrestler? Sure. He just doesn't capture my interest at all. Does that make me someone who is limited in my experiences? I don't think so. I have seen him wrestle, if he was on a match on TV I would watch it because I'm a fan of the sport. I'm sure he's a heck of a nice guy in person, but he just doesn't do anything for me. Werner and I saw a card where Danielson wrestled Austin Aries and I thought their match was a snooze-fest (BLASPHEMY!!!!!!). HOWEVER, on that same card Chris Hero and The Human Tornado put on one of the very best matches I'd ever seen live. That's just the kind of wrestling I'm into. Again, am I limited. No. I saw, I watched, I didn't like. Now, all THAT being said, I have absolutely no problem with Danielson being in LOW. Truth be told I see him more as a LOTF guy, BUT I don't have ANY problem with him being in LOW. I think you'd be fooling yourself if you didn't agree that no matter how much you liked him, Danielson would be bumped in a heartbeat if Hart, Hogan, Funk or even Owen Hart was signed and the LOW team needed a slot. They have more name recognition. I didn't say they were BETTER wrestlers, I said they have more name recognition. It's fine if you hate that's the way it it is, but that is the way it is. Will Danielson get used in my LOW fed? No, probably not, but then I only use about 30 of the Legends released so far in my fed and I don't use ANY of the LOTF* guys! Why? Ummmm...well...It's my fed Promoter. Am I mad he's taking a slot in LOW now? No. There's other guys in the set that I'm looking forward to more and I'm glad to be getting those. It's all about opinion. I'm just excited to be getting a new set. * I own all the LOTF sets and LE cards though because I enjoy supporting a great product. Well said! I sat IN THE FRONT ROW at the now torn down Sports Plus arena in Lake Grove NY a few years back and watched Danielson win the ROH title from James Gibson. It was one of 15 ROH shows I have sat in the FRONT ROW for... Joe, AJ, Daniels, Punk, Cide, Delirious, the Briscoes, AOTF, heck, even Colt puts on great matches to get the crowd involved...this guy does leglocks and toeholds and armlocks and mixes in some stiff shots and suddenly he's the icon of the indies? He also has a bad reputation with some of his former co-workers who have been cashing big checks while he wrestles in high schools. But I'm sure he's a swell guy. Anyway, the match where he won the ROH strap was a snoozefest-filled, headlock fest and the fans really gave it to him. You could hear a pin drop through most of the match, the crowd was so not into it. And it was not any fault of Gibson I assure you. He is overrated, short and pasty and has more acne on his back than your average teenager...Sure he can wrestle for an hour, but 55 minutes of the match is pure boredom! If his card is strong enough to compete with Harley, Bock and Mascaras, that will be just...sad. |
|
|
|
Post by doublea on Jun 8, 2009 15:48:59 GMT -5
I know Tom and TM have to think this is fantastic publicity for Originals. How many storylines, thru the Danielson threads, can people already come up with!
DDP disrespects him, Danielson challenges him is one...
The possibilities are limitless!
|
|
|
|
Post by eddydeanclassic on Jun 8, 2009 15:56:37 GMT -5
I know Tom and TM have to think this is fantastic publicity for Originals. How many storylines, thru the Danielson threads, can people already come up with! DDP disrespects him, Danielson challenges him is one... The possibilities are limitless! How about this one...promoter opens mailbox, tears cards open...rejoices at Exotic One, OMG, Roop and the rest..finds Danielson card...and uses it for a coaster as he watches some old school AWA...where DDP is managing the most underrated tag team in history...none other than Badd Company..."Hit the Music." |
|
|
|
Post by eddydeanclassic on Jun 8, 2009 15:59:47 GMT -5
I'm just kidding..I'll job Danielson out to George South, Larry Sharpe and SD Jones....whenever AMDrag rolls his finisher, I'll automatically put him on level 3 defense with 5 tokens
|
|
|
|
Post by smathis on Jun 8, 2009 16:00:38 GMT -5
If his card is strong enough to compete with Harley, Bock and Mascaras, that will be just...sad. Although any speculation on the card's stats is purely conjecture, I seriously doubt this will be the case. I dig Danielson. He reminds me of old school mat-wrestling. I can see how others might not like that style. But, then again, most Strangler Lewis or Lou Thesz matches would seem boring to a contemporary wrestling fan too. I mean, have you ever seen Thesz vs. Rikidozan? Summary: It's not a spotfest. Long story longer, I mark out for Danielson and even my bootleg of him only has him on par with, say, Valentine or Bob Orton Jr. Which is more than good enough to carry a title in an LOTF fed. But prolly Junior Title level in a straight up LOW fed. I doubt Knapik, Cory, Tim et al. would choose less wisely than myself. My grasp of the game being but a gnat adrift in their ocean. But, personally, I'm tired of the talk. Let's get 'em in the ring and dice it out! Danielson better bring his A game 'cause my dice run hot for the Old School (with the one glaring and frustrating exception of Strangler Lewis). |
|
|
|
Post by Knapik on Jun 8, 2009 16:02:37 GMT -5
I'm just kidding..I'll job Danielson out to George South, Larry Sharpe and SD Jones....whenever AMDrag rolls his finisher, I'll automatically put him on level 3 defense with 5 tokens Bad news, bro. If Danielson reaches 5 tokens he automatically wins. :/ |
|
|
|
Post by The Creek Rises on Jun 8, 2009 17:01:28 GMT -5
Is the horse dead yet?
I can't wait to get the next name for LOW Originals so we can leave Danielson's carcass and move on to praise/rip the next name ... it's been a while since the Board has been THIS lively ...
Seriously, I plan to order the set no matter what my feelings on an individual wrestler or how limited or expansive my wrestling viewing/indy knowledge/short-sighted '80s-'90s mindset is. (I think I covered all my qualities/defects) ...
And I agree with smathis -- let's just get the guys, get the dice out and see what happens ... (except for those of you who manipulate the results -- but we already covered that in a poll) ...
|
|
|
|
Post by SuperNaturalX on Jun 8, 2009 17:29:17 GMT -5
Daniels should be able to go toe to toe with Race and anyone else. Danielson has learned from the best in the business, and many of the names he is said to not match up with call him one of the best ever.
THe jobber comments are ultra moronic, and just shows how little you know about wrestling.
|
|
|
|
Post by LWPD on Jun 8, 2009 17:29:52 GMT -5
Just a brief note on the board rules.
All board members are welcome to debate and critique game content and related topics to their heart's content. Acceptable arguments and expressed opinions can range from comprehensive, logical and fact based to fictional and incoherent. What is not welcome on this board are personal attacks or direct/indirect insults toward other board members.
As of this moment everyone on this board has a 'clean slate'. Going forward any poster who is acting in violation of the above rule, will have their account disabled at moderator discretion.
Thanks!
|
|
