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Post by Vidtek on Jan 18, 2012 17:08:25 GMT -5
Wouldn't the only technical difference between a ROH Delirious card and the two CHIKARA Delirious cards we have be that "Shadows Over Heck" would become "Shadows Over Hell?" That and maybe switch the BIZARO DRIVER with Chemical Imbalance II, but I haven't seen much of Delirious' work in ROH as opposed to his work in CHIKARA.
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Post by Tournament Master on Jan 18, 2012 17:33:28 GMT -5
Ya but a move to color in an upgrade. I'm just saying we already have a color El Generico. I'm not against an ROH version if it gets voted in. He's one of my favorites. I'm sure the set would include another Delirious too. I could be wrong, but I dont think Delirious wrestles in ROH any more, he is training and booking, but not an active wrestler. |
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Post by marktaggart on Jan 18, 2012 17:36:25 GMT -5
TournamentMaster is correct. Although I would still like to see a special edition "red poison" Delirious card to go with the BDK and traditional black and green versions we already have. I need the entire set of color schemes.
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Post by payback on Jan 19, 2012 8:40:00 GMT -5
Wouldn't the only technical difference between a ROH Delirious card and the two CHIKARA Delirious cards we have be that "Shadows Over Heck" would become "Shadows Over Hell?" That and maybe switch the BIZARO DRIVER with Chemical Imbalance II, Not necessarily. The Chkara cards are designed to fight only the other Chikara cards. If there is an ROH set, I would imagine the stats would be done in a similar way. Delirious' card would probably be tweaked more than just some of his moves names getting the PG labels off. You would probably see his card reflect his spot in the fed and there are several ways to do that. most people think of just changing his finisher or pin ratings but you can alter a card's strength or weakness using several different methods. That's just my opinion. When you see the LOTF Mike Quackenbush & then the Chikara card, they are similar, but have many differences to reflect that he's one of the top guys in Chikara. |
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 19, 2012 12:43:35 GMT -5
That is very true and that is why I would love to see B&W versions of anyone who is released as a color card in Chikara or ROH sets. I think the main appeal of LOW for me has always been getting to have matches between wrestlers who never wrestled each other. I have less interest in creating my own ROH fed than I do in having the Briscoes face off with the Midnight Express or the Worlds Greatest Tag Team face off with the Valiants.
I understand that there are alot of people that get into running their own ROH fed so I don't have a problem with these releases at all (and the full color art looks awesome) but I probably wouldn't actually run a ROH fed myself. I do plan to run a Chikara fed though just to see what kind of wacky ideas I come up with.
My top picks for this set would be The Worlds Greatest Tag Team though. I have been hoping to see them released by FG for a long time. They are one of my favorite tag teams in recent memory. I loved when they were feuding with the Guerreros & Bashams. I also like Tomaso Ciampa & Caprice Coleman. I have been a Caprice Coleman fan since he was wrestling for NWA Wildside.
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Post by swarm on Jan 19, 2012 13:01:24 GMT -5
Not necessarily. The Chkara cards are designed to fight only the other Chikara cards. If there is an ROH set, I would imagine the stats would be done in a similar way. This is kinda true. There is definitely a build in hierarchy in the CHIKARA roster (set by Mike Q himself!) but as anyone who has ever held a King of Trios mixing CHIKARA and LOTF guys knows, they absolutely co-exist and work awesome together. Any ROH set would be the same. I have a very specific vision for how an ROH set who be written to best get over their brutal style. Whereas the CHIKARA guys have a lot of offense and weaker defenses to help illustrate the high octane offense found in CHIKARA, I imagine ROH guys being the opposite. Low pins, lots of downs but lots of reversals. lots of -2 moves, (pw) and (ag) moves playing major role in positioning. Mix of lower finishers, increased Add 1's and higher risk/reward results for the feds biggest finishers. Designed for absolute wars. There's a lot of ways to write a card to do what you want it to do. The goal is always to be revolutionary while respecting Tom's "universe". |
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 19, 2012 15:48:14 GMT -5
Not necessarily. The Chkara cards are designed to fight only the other Chikara cards. If there is an ROH set, I would imagine the stats would be done in a similar way. This is kinda true. There is definitely a build in hierarchy in the CHIKARA roster (set by Mike Q himself!) but as anyone who has ever held a King of Trios mixing CHIKARA and LOTF guys knows, they absolutely co-exist and work awesome together. Any ROH set would be the same. I have a very specific vision for how an ROH set who be written to best get over their brutal style. Whereas the CHIKARA guys have a lot of offense and weaker defenses to help illustrate the high octane offense found in CHIKARA, I imagine ROH guys being the opposite. Low pins, lots of downs but lots of reversals. lots of -2 moves, (pw) and (ag) moves playing major role in positioning. Mix of lower finishers, increased Add 1's and higher risk/reward results for the feds biggest finishers. Designed for absolute wars. There's a lot of ways to write a card to do what you want it to do. The goal is always to be revolutionary while respecting Tom's "universe". Sounds really good. Awesome to hear you putting this kind of thought into how you are writing the cards. |
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Post by BloodGod on Feb 4, 2012 23:57:19 GMT -5
Just hope my votes hypothetically lead to a RoH set in the Future, bein' so cool that it would likely be a full-color set... and to specify for the record, my vote for "other" is , without a doubt, Delirious!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2012 1:43:41 GMT -5
TYLER BLACK and I vote no re-dos of guys already in color. Danielson, Delirious ect...... atleast not the first 24. Their cards would be very compatible and could be done later. Just my two cents.
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Post by MonkeyDBain on Feb 5, 2012 20:59:06 GMT -5
I don't watch much ROH anymore. TV seems to have .... idk.... I am just not into it. Bout half the guys on the list I don't know. Good to see Jay Lethal back.
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