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Post by pikemojo on Mar 9, 2012 10:47:17 GMT -5
Can someone explain the appeal of this guy??? He is all over the place now and I just don't get it. His voice and promos are irritating. His gimmick appears to be that of a strong style scumbag (who appears to have not showered in weeks). His wrestling doesn't seem up to par from what I have seen and quite frankly seems dangerous at times. He is also too small to make alot of his moves seem/feel real. A small guy doing big suplexes that only guys like Tazz & Perry Saturn used to do feels fake.
Anyone a fan that sees something in him that I don't???
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Post by jrgoldman on Mar 9, 2012 11:12:51 GMT -5
Sami is one of the few Indy workers who can get actual emotion in to his matches. In terms of indy workers, I would put him in the same category as Eddie Kingston and El Generico in that regard. He works stiff and he knows how to get genuine heel heat and not "I'm so cool look at me heel on the crowd" heat. His tag stuff with Moxley was really great, and his matches with Finlay and with Low Ki were highlights of this past year.
He also wrestles a really interesting style, in which he takes a lot of punishment as a heel.
Also, he really isn't that much smaller than Tazz, who is like 5'5", and Perry Saturn, so I don't get that argument.
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Post by pikemojo on Mar 9, 2012 12:20:01 GMT -5
First off, I don't want this to turn into a flame war. I have seen it happen too many times. jrgoldman, I appreciate your opinion and am trying to keep it in mind as I watch more of Callihan's matches. I am watching for the emotion and the high level of punishment that he takes.
I went and checked and you are right. Both Tazz & Saturn are similar in height to Sami but both appear to be much bigger. That is the key. Sami Callihan doesn't look much bigger than most of the opponents that he is suplexing whereas Tazz & Saturn definitely looked like big bad ass dudes.
His wrestling style though is really nothing special to me though. I am incredibly sick of the "strong Style" thing. Some guys can do it well but there are far too many people who can't and are still trying to use that as their wrestling style. I think it is pretty strange that the classic American style of pro-wrestling is hardly ever seen anymore, especially on the indy circuit. Adam Pearce is a great example of someone who has taken that classic American style of pro-wrestling and somehow he is special because he is one of those few guys using that style. Pearce is great but I just find it weird that it is special for him to use that style of wrestling when it is so similar to what we have been watching for decades.
I also don't care to see skinny white boys throwing alot of martial arts kicks when it is obvious that they have ZERO martial arts training. This is not something that is necessarily directed at Sami Callihan specifically but it is just something that I noticed alot as I was checking out some videos of his.
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Post by jrgoldman on Mar 10, 2012 22:33:27 GMT -5
i didn't mean to flame you at all, and I am sorry if my post came across as such.
It's funny, because it seems like we enjoy similar things in wrestling. I have been watching wrestling a long time, and i hate the recent trend of "I'm gonna do a move that I saw a japanese dude do, then you should no sell it, then do another move on me a couple of times til we both lie down and people clap" that plagues indy wrestling. In my eyes, Callihan represents a departure from this. His moves on offense matter because they are few and far between. He sells really well, and he understands the pacing of his matches. I am also a fan of shorter (under twenty minutes) matches, and he is predominantly featured in them.
I suppose if I was being honest and a little cynical, I think that Callihan being a current favorite says a good amount about the current state of independent wrestling. Callihan is able to put together good matches that I enjoy watching without using strike exchanges, or fighting spirit, or mexican stand off spots. He is able to have the crowd care about him with out making shooty comments or making jokes or acting out of character.
you could look at it that way, and say that I like Callihan simply because he doesn't make me annoyed at wrestling, but I prefer to say that I like Sami Callihan because I think he is one of the few that "gets it" and does something original.
JR.
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Post by pikemojo on Mar 12, 2012 23:19:55 GMT -5
You weren't flaming at all. I just wanted to make sure it didn't seem like I was since I was somewhat disparaging of someone you are a fan of. Anyway...
It is funny because most of the matches I have seen of his have back & forth exchanges of some kind. I certainly haven't seen a lot of his matches so it could be a fluke that the ones that I have watched had them in it.
I guess I will have to check out some more matches (online, so I don't have to pay) and see if my opinion changes at all.
Feel free to post some links. Who else you into on the indy scene?
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