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Post by Bazzy on Jul 20, 2012 9:00:25 GMT -5
Backward step ? . Just lived off Eddie's death since he died
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 12:51:27 GMT -5
I met Chavo in a restaurant in Denver before a Smackdown taping and you talk about a genially nice guy. HE IS IT!... Most of these guys we worship in the ring are complete douchbags and assholes outside of it....but not him. Regardless if he's cruised on his family name , how some do see it, or not. He is an AMAZING PERSON.
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Post by on_the_edge on Jul 21, 2012 6:30:32 GMT -5
I am excited to see how TNA uses him. I think he was never appreciated really for what he can bring to the table. People are talking about him cashing in on the family name but in reality he was in Eddies shadow. Sadly people compare him to Eddie. To me Chavo is the Christian to Eddies Edge.
Now as far as what he brings to the table, it is experience that can really help the young guys. Not just in the ring or on TV but on the road. I also think he is the next step in TNA trying to bring in the Latino market. I mean look at where there last and next PPV outside of the Impact Zone were/will be. Both in southwest in markets with a lot of Latinos. In that regard, he is an upgrade from Hernandez.
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Post by swarm on Jul 21, 2012 7:39:51 GMT -5
Until someone in the industry comes out and says it, there's no way to confirm it, but I really got the impression that Chavo was a real pain in the ass backstage, and probably "earned" his slotting vs. Hornswoggle more than anything else. I read an interview with him once he was finally gone and he came off like a delusional prick. He talked as if he was some great main event star who was up there with Cena, Edge, Taker, HHH and others. In fact, he actually said he "taught Cena everything he knows." He talked A LOT about being misused (even before Hornswoggle feud). Now, if a guy is willing to talk that much shit in public, just imagine the things he must have been saying behind the scenes. I think his angle with Hornswoggle was probably one of two things - punishment, or a test. Chavo sounded like the kind of guy who takes himself WAY too seriously for a fake wrestler with a script to follow. He talked as if wrestling was real or something. Hey. you have a job, shut up and do it. I think he was a guy who got everything in life because of Eddie and then later on, because of Eddie's his death. I think everyone but him knew that, and at some point, he just became unbearable to work with, so they simply started paying him back by jobbing him to a midget probably because WWE knew how much it bothered him. Just a very outsiders view and opinion.
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Post by Sickman on Jul 21, 2012 10:28:13 GMT -5
I don't think that it is so improbable that Chavo may have taught Cena "everything he knows". How many times have we seen or heard about the Ric Flair's or Hulk Hogan's of the world being trainers? It's usually guys like Hugh Morris, Bob Holly or Eugene that are doing that. Now, I'm not saying that the main eventers don't do it in their own ways. I'm just pointing out that the guys that get hired to do the training are the guys that never excelled past maybe an IC or US run. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one main eventer that became a good trainer and that is Ricky Steamboat. Maybe you can throw Arn Anderson in there as well.
I always thought that Chavo was underutilized. Not a main eventer by any means.
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Post by on_the_edge on Jul 22, 2012 23:14:07 GMT -5
I don't think that it is so improbable that Chavo may have taught Cena "everything he knows". How many times have we seen or heard about the Ric Flair's or Hulk Hogan's of the world being trainers? It's usually guys like Hugh Morris, Bob Holly or Eugene that are doing that. Now, I'm not saying that the main eventers don't do it in their own ways. I'm just pointing out that the guys that get hired to do the training are the guys that never excelled past maybe an IC or US run. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one main eventer that became a good trainer and that is Ricky Steamboat. Maybe you can throw Arn Anderson in there as well. I always thought that Chavo was underutilized. Not a main eventer by any means. Very good point. Besides it is not like Cena is a master technician. And as far as what Swarm said about Chavo taking himself serious what is wrong with that. Wrestling is a family tradition and it is a craft he loves and a job he takes pride in. Unlike so many prima donnas who use wrestling as a springboard into other avenues of entertainment. |
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Post by swarm on Jul 23, 2012 9:50:52 GMT -5
Maybe Chavo taught Cena how to do an arm drag, or take a bump but you can't teach someone "everything he knows" if the person teaching it never experienced it himself. Chavo was never more than a mid-card talent. He has no clue how to handle the life of a Main Eventer, let alone THE guy for the company. If anything, Chavo could learn a lot from Cena.
And no one should ever take themselves too seriously. Especially people clearly living off a name. Let's be honest here. If Chavo was Primo he'd be teaming with Epico right now. There's literally zero difference between those two guys other than their last names.
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Post by Jon E Diamond on Jul 23, 2012 18:04:35 GMT -5
Maybe Chavo taught Cena how to do an arm drag, or take a bump but you can't teach someone "everything he knows" if the person teaching it never experienced it himself. Chavo was never more than a mid-card talent. He has no clue how to handle the life of a Main Eventer, let alone THE guy for the company. If anything, Chavo could learn a lot from Cena. Got to agree with Swarm here. It's possible that Chavo did teach him some of the basics in the ring, but I think it's real far fetched to think Chavo taught him everything he knows. I don't think anyone can make the claim that they taught Cena everything he knows. I am excited to see how TNA uses him. I think he was never appreciated really for what he can bring to the table. I don't agree Chavo was never really appreciated for what he can bring to the table. He won a feud with Rey Mysterio and won the ECW Title from Punk. Can anyone honestly say he deserves much better than that? Talent-wise, I believe he deserves better than jobbing to a leprachaun, but again, we have no idea what he was like backstage. |
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Post by on_the_edge on Jul 23, 2012 22:34:30 GMT -5
Well maybe it is just me but when he says he taught him everything I put it in the same vain as "I'm so hungry I can eat a horse". It is a generalization more so then a solid statement. But as all things it depends on content and since I did not hear the action interview or whatever I can not really say.
As far as being appreciated while those are some good examples they make up a small portion of his career. And that was something booking did but does not show how people, especially the fans, thought of him. I think his problem is the same as Eric Young, Big Show and Santino Marella. They all can be extremely funny so they get used too much as comedy acts which overshadows their in ring ability. I just hope TNA does not go that route. At least not at first. I want to see him come in as a focused wrestler out to prove how good he is.
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Post by Big Bri on Jul 23, 2012 22:37:53 GMT -5
This might sound mean, but I honestly think his best work (entertainment-wise) was with the toy horse in WCW. It was actually really funny.
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