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Post by swarm on Aug 29, 2012 7:51:24 GMT -5
I'll never get people defending HHH. He is literally, the worst. Brock's match vs. Cena was 5 stars, but that was rushed so HHH could come back and fight Brock in a 2 star match in the Main Event of Summerslam. Does HHH really think he is a bigger star than Cena? And now we're going to get a rematch so our HHHero can get his win back? Great. Where was CM Punk's rematch when HHH pinned him, putting a giant stop to his "Summer of Punk" streak. How was the "Summer of HHH?" by comparison? Pretty gay actually.
It boils down to this. HHH is great. We get it. But he isn't one of the best. Not even close. He isn't Hogan, Flair, Austin, the Rock, Undertaker, or even Cena. He's at the top of that 2nd tier of guys like HBK, Jericho, Angle, Edge, Kane, Dusty Rhodes etc...nothing wrong with that. But for whatever reason, HHH just can't accept that.
This latest stunt was just embarrassing. I was wondering how long he would walk around in circles and say nothing before those fans on Monday FINALLY started chanting his name. He was basically begging for a reaction. Awful.
Does anyone really want to see HHH vs. Brock again? Or even cared the first time? And Brock is one of my all-time favorites. I'd literally rather see him vs. anyone else: Orton, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Chris Jericho...probably even Big Show and Kane if booked right. I'd rather see Brock fight all those guys before ever fighting HHH even once, let alone twice.
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Post by jmello on Aug 29, 2012 9:37:12 GMT -5
Let's not forget the Triple H - Sheamus fiasco. Sheamus knocks him out for months and he comes back on Raw and demolishes Sheamus. Seriously?!?! Sheamus is one of your top talents and he got pushed aside thanks to Triple H.
There was a time I was appreciative the WWE had Triple H, a time when Austin, Rock, Angle etc. were either hurt or retiring. His time has come and gone and while he can still be a special attraction, he should never, ever be in the main event again. This last debacle with Brock was atrocious, they should have built up to Lesnar vs. Cena, not throw that at us to build towards Lesnar vs. Triple H. It's a shame.
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Post by LWPD on Aug 29, 2012 19:08:35 GMT -5
For all of the complaints about Triple H, I gotta say I don't think WWE cares if a few people on this board are bored with Triple H and vow to change the channel and/or boycott pay per views because of Triple H. My understanding is that WWE has expectations that Summerslam has drawn better this year than in previous years, and the top billing and main event featured Triple H in it. With Brock/Hunter on top, Summerslam did 14k paid, with $1.1 million at the gate. WWE is going to be very happy with that number. Given the state of the economy, both men should take a very deep bow for helping to pull that type of number off. |
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Post by Big Bri on Aug 30, 2012 22:00:34 GMT -5
It boils down to this. HHH is great. We get it. But he isn't one of the best. Not even close. He isn't Hogan, Flair, Austin, the Rock, Undertaker, or even Cena. He's at the top of that 2nd tier of guys like HBK, Jericho, Angle, Edge, Kane, Dusty Rhodes etc...nothing wrong with that. But for whatever reason, HHH just can't accept that. This latest stunt was just embarrassing. I was wondering how long he would walk around in circles and say nothing before those fans on Monday FINALLY started chanting his name. He was basically begging for a reaction. Awful. Does anyone really want to see HHH vs. Brock again? Or even cared the first time? Your first two paragraphs should be chiseled in gold and hung up in Stamford. My thoughts exactly. However, I for one did want to see the match. I wanted it to happen 10 years ago and it was the only reason I bought SummerSlam. I thought the match was decent. Do I want to see it again? I’m not sure. I guess it just depends on how it all plays out. |
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Post by Big Bri on Aug 30, 2012 22:03:27 GMT -5
Let's not forget the Triple H - Sheamus fiasco. Sheamus knocks him out for months and he comes back on Raw and demolishes Sheamus. Seriously?!?! Sheamus is one of your top talents and he got pushed aside thanks to Triple H. I disagree with this. I thought it was good on WWE's part to acknowledge something that happened more than a month ago instead of just forgetting about it. They had to close that story quick so they could move onto HHH-Taker. They really had no other choice but to crush Sheamus. 1 year later, they let him beat Daniel Bryan for the strap at WM. I think Sheamus is doing just fine. |
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Post by Shon Maxx on Aug 31, 2012 15:24:22 GMT -5
Isn't the current plan for WM to be Brock vs. UT? If so, the only way a Trips/Brock rematch should end is in Trips getting taken out on a stretcher. If they want to sell a match like that, they need to make Brock truly a monster, possibly mangling Kane at RR or NWO as well. Maybe even have an interview with Cena where he says that even though he won his match with Brock, he wasn't the same for a while.
UT isn't as unstoppable as he used to be. I think the only way this match should be billed is with Brock as the monster and UT the underdog.
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Post by maddog1981 on Aug 31, 2012 16:11:02 GMT -5
I think HHH is best summed up by the statement that he's a guy that works with guys that draw. That's really it. He's a huge part of why I don't watch anymore.
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Post by chewey on Sept 1, 2012 9:54:34 GMT -5
I think HHH is best summed up by the statement that he's a guy that works with guys that draw. That's really it. He's a huge part of why I don't watch anymore. Between LWPD's hard figures on Triple H's drawing power at Summer Slam and this statement, I don't know what else you'd need to say to defend Triple H. WWE cares more about selling more tickets than making a few more people who already watch the WWE product happy. I also think the "I'm sick of Triple H hogging the spotlight!" is SOOO 2006. He's a part time performer. He isn't on TV every week, he does open and end the shows when he is, but he's more of a special attraction. He hasn't been near the title in years. Get over it. It's just like how the very next time John Cena wins the title SOMEBODY on this board will complain "I'm so sick of Cena with the WWE title" even though he has probably only held the title for about a combined total of four months since 2010 - 2 3/4 years ago. Six years is a long time, boys. That's like seeing Colonel Mustafa appear at the side of Sergeant Slaughter and saying "I'm SO sick of him feuding with Hulk Hogan, they need to give Hogan new opponents other than the Iron Sheik" or something like that. |
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Post by maddog1981 on Sept 1, 2012 12:08:51 GMT -5
Ummm... He was working with Lesnar, a guy that tends to draw. His big run in the early and mid 00s were complete bombs at the box office and he ushered in a giant downswing in business. Cena is the guy that turned the company around. Pointing to a single good buy rate with a fairly hot name doesn't erase 4-5 years of actively hurting the product.
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Post by swarm on Sept 6, 2012 15:21:14 GMT -5
Ya, I don't think anyone credits any of that gate to HHH. It's Summerslam (which sells with or without HHH in the main event) and it's Brock Lesnar (who earns the crossover fans). That could have been Brock vs. a few different guys and I bet it would have drawn the same numbers.
As discussed before, they should not have rushed Cena vs. Lesnar, instead saving it for SS. They may have even draw higher numbers had they done that, and left HHH off the show entirely. Cena vs. Lesnar is a much bigger main event than HHH vs. Lesnar, but, gotta make HHH happy so it is what it is.
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