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Post by maddog1981 on Oct 13, 2012 8:41:13 GMT -5
Steamboat is a great worker. A top level worker in fact. I'm merely basing this off of what I saw in the 1989 NWA Television where he was the NWA World Champion for a couple of months. He just didn't work. He was boring in interviews and he was just missing something. Plus, the family man gimmick was a little outdated by 1989. By the time WrestleWar came around the crowds were solidly behind Flair in the matches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 17:45:10 GMT -5
But El Matador I think would have been a bad choice. I don't know. That -4 Agility with a -1 Power Rating really kept him in the game, and his BULLWHIP was a pretty powerful finisher, especially combined with his generally solid offense... Wait, who were you talking about?
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Post by Shane Sullivan on Oct 13, 2012 19:43:54 GMT -5
Matador. I stand corrected. He was a bad ass. lol
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Post by Vegas on Oct 15, 2012 7:36:21 GMT -5
I saw that Lex Luger (who I met last Summer at the NWO reunion in California) made that list.
Yesterday I was reading the new book "The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons" and in the Bret Hart section it is mentioned that Vince at first was thinking about putting the belt on Luger and was pushing him with the Lex Express which the book says was not as successful as Vince wanted. Plus in 1993 Vince was facing a steroids lawsuit and Jack Jarrett advised him to put the belt on a smaller wrestler such as Bret Hart. Jarrett also said he told Vince that Luger did not have the charisma to be the champion by saying "I told him that Luger had the charisma of the turd I sh*t every morning" and "park the bus and stop the bleeding" about the Lex Express not being as successful as Vince planned.
I actually liked Lex Luger, but it was interesting for me to read this account (some of which I had heard before) in this new book"The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons."
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Post by inquisator on Oct 19, 2012 8:11:15 GMT -5
In the modern Fed most would have had title runs.........but the list is pretty biased and attitude era heavy,,,,,,,
My two names are...the Vastly underrated Don Muraco.......he had size, great on the mic, and could have had a Flair style run..... Jimmy Snuka also could have had a sympathetic run as a face......although his early heel stuff was awesome....
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Post by maddog1981 on Oct 19, 2012 19:34:00 GMT -5
There are two problems with Muraco and Snuka...
Muraco was a part timer at best throughout most of the decade. He would come and go and I think that's why he was never given a run with the belt.
Snuka... had certain problems we won't go into here...
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Post by Demosthenes on Oct 20, 2012 6:53:13 GMT -5
I saw that Lex Luger (who I met last Summer at the NWO reunion in California) made that list. Yesterday I was reading the new book "The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons" and in the Bret Hart section it is mentioned that Vince at first was thinking about putting the belt on Luger and was pushing him with the Lex Express which the book says was not as successful as Vince wanted. Plus in 1993 Vince was facing a steroids lawsuit and Jack Jarrett advised him to put the belt on a smaller wrestler such as Bret Hart. Jarrett also said he told Vince that Luger did not have the charisma to be the champion by saying "I told him that Luger had the charisma of the turd I sh*t every morning" and "park the bus and stop the bleeding" about the Lex Express not being as successful as Vince planned. I actually liked Lex Luger, but it was interesting for me to read this account (some of which I had heard before) in this new book"The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons." I thought Green Ant was a better Lex Luger than Lex Luger ever was!
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Post by TTX on Oct 20, 2012 8:56:50 GMT -5
Muraco was too addicted to surfing to have a run, plus the WWF wouldn't have been the place for him to have said run (Graham was the only heel to have a long reign for years...the rest were just transition guys)
Snuka, yeah, just had too many problems, although you wonder what Vince might have done if Hogan had been injured and unable to go for a long while.
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Post by maddog1981 on Oct 20, 2012 9:27:59 GMT -5
Yes, the WWE was a face territory until the late 80s. If you look at how things operated, the heel won the belt when it was time to transition it to the next up and coming face. Graham broke that mold briefly but even going back, you can see Backlund getting built up for most of his reign.
Really, Yokozuna was when they broke away from the face territory idea.
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Post by maddog1981 on Oct 20, 2012 9:28:39 GMT -5
I saw that Lex Luger (who I met last Summer at the NWO reunion in California) made that list. Yesterday I was reading the new book "The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons" and in the Bret Hart section it is mentioned that Vince at first was thinking about putting the belt on Luger and was pushing him with the Lex Express which the book says was not as successful as Vince wanted. Plus in 1993 Vince was facing a steroids lawsuit and Jack Jarrett advised him to put the belt on a smaller wrestler such as Bret Hart. Jarrett also said he told Vince that Luger did not have the charisma to be the champion by saying "I told him that Luger had the charisma of the turd I sh*t every morning" and "park the bus and stop the bleeding" about the Lex Express not being as successful as Vince planned. I actually liked Lex Luger, but it was interesting for me to read this account (some of which I had heard before) in this new book"The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: Heroes & Icons." I thought Green Ant was a better Lex Luger than Lex Luger ever was! You should watch 1989 NWA Lex Luger. He was spectacular that year.
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