Expanded Card, Strat-O-Matic Style

[WTIC]

Hi!

Okay, this has nothing to do with that Varying Playing Stat chart I discussed on Sunday, but here is an idea I had a long time ago, but wasn't able to post a pic of way back then.

WHAT IF the playing cards were expanded to a 2d6 roll instead of the 1d6 roll we have now? What would that look like? Well, here's a sample bootleg so you can see it in action! It looks quite a bit like Strat-O Baseball!

Some of the things I would make sure all cards would have if they were expanded like this:

* All Level 1 Offense # 7 would have a (pw) or (ag) on them.
* All Level 2 Offense # 7 would have a "move--3" on them.
* All Level 3 Offense # 7 would be their BEST Finisher.
* All Level 1 Defense # 7 would have their BEST Level REVERSE there.
* All Level 2 Defense # 7 would have their WORST Level REVERSE there.
* All Level 3 Defense # 7 would have their PIN Rating.

All cards would have each move based on the original "1 out of 6" possibility on them. By this, I mean if a (ch B) appears on a Level 1 Offense # 4, then that counts as a "3 out of 36" percent chance of happening (for those familiar with dice roll probabilities). So you would need another "3 out of 36" percent chance on the card. This would be on their # 10, or their # 2 and # 3, or their # 2 and # 11, etc. You will note this because if this card example has more than 1 "(lv)" option, and more than 2 "(ch __)" on it.

NOW with that said, I always pictured a real-life Strat-O Wrestling game would include more Ratings: For stuff such as COMEBACK, SPEED, and STAMINA (and possibly more)! So that would mean even MORE charts, haha!

Perhaps a short summary of what kind of placement on the card the wrestler should be, sort of like a "Caliber" rating? (Pre-lim, mid-card, championship, superstar, etc)

Thoughts?

[throwingtoasters]

Wow! My initial reaction is: I like this a lot. Such an interesting concept. Great work.

[Deleted]

I like the concept but how many real life guys have enough moves to fill this kind of card? I think it'd be really interesting to try to do a full bootleg set in this style.

[Gunslinger]

Wouldn't matches take a lot longer? Now, if you roll a -3 move, you have a 1 in 6 changes of landing on the PIN on level 3 defense. Unless I'm missing something, with this model, it's a 1 in 11 chance.

[WTIC]

Thanks, TB!

Switch, yeah a full set of moves would be difficult to come up with for wrestlers without a large moveset! With that said, the WWE video game series seems to come up with moves for everybody every year!

Gun: A 2d6 roll of "7" (for hitting the PIN Rating on Level 3 Defense) really is a 1 in 6 chance of rolling. You'd be rolling TWO dice instead of one on these cards.

As I said, Strat-O would have come up with something very complex, I'm sure! Just look at all the charts you need for baseball! Football has the team's coach (you) guessing the opponent's play right or wrong (run or pass), but I don't think you could come up with a "guessed right, guessed wrong" system for wrestling. I had expected the company to come up with a wrestling game during the '80s heyday of wrestling!

Any more feedback, comments?

[Pete]

You would definitely have to repeat moves for some guys, which I'd be okay with. Or for punch-heavy guys, have moves that are all but the same like "roundhouse right" along with "big haymaker," something I try to avoid when I write cards unless I'm desperate.

[TTX]

amazed there wasn't more of that for some of the 80s JCP guys.

[Pete]

If I could fill out 15 slots for Thunderbolt Patterson and '80s Billy Graham, I can do it with anybody.

[WTIC]

Nov 13, 2017 21:42:19 GMT -5 Pete said:

If I could fill out 15 slots for Thunderbolt Patterson and '80s Billy Graham, I can do it with anybody.

Indeed! For the "OTHER" wrestling game in the '80s (which I continued to make cards for several years after that company disappeared), I had one HECK of a time getting a full move set for El Egante (Giant Gonzales). All that I had for several months was a whole FIVE moves, that's it! Some "superstars" never do more than a small handfull of moves, it makes it rough for making playable cards, that's for sure!

And the same went for guys that were almost always on DEFENSE. Cactus Jack had about 4 moves per match, while he was on defense the rest of the time! Thank goodness he expanded his moveset later on...

[Mr. Beefy]

Honestly with this much extra parts I would add one PIN in L2D and One Surprise finisher in L2O. Then add another PIN and finisher in the L3's.

With the more in depth nature of a card like this that will simulate more of the quick and surprise finish and also establish L3 as a more hurt or going in for the kill stage.

I would also consider one comeback on L3D. I would probably add more Add 1 moves too. With the addition of slots you could also add a DQ move on offense and a DQ "comeback" on defense (if you don't get DQ'd on defense you take over at that level).