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Post by Travis605 on Jan 7, 2019 17:10:54 GMT -5
Since I’m friends with Jim and our son is one of the few kids Corny likes...my vote is Jim Honestly, wrestling isn’t wrestling any more. It’s performance art...and that’s fine, but just call it whaf it is. I'm sure to guys who wrestled in the 40's and 50's thought that 70's and 80's wrestling wasn't wrestling to them either. The sport/artform continues to change for better or worse (often both simultaneously). Pro wrestling is certainly accepted as more of a performance artform today, even though it always has been to some degree. Some of the "realism" has been sacrificed for entertainment, which I am all for personally, but I'm guessing I'm in the minority among hardcore wrestling fans. Honestly, that may be a few, but honestly it really wasn’t the case. You never heard guys like Thesz, Rogers, Etc day those things until the WWF expansion, and that was basically limited to the WWF brand |
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Post by Big Bri on Jan 11, 2019 16:48:44 GMT -5
How to listen to Jim Cornette's two podcasts...
1. Jim Cornette Experience
-fast forward the first 10 minutes as it's just him schilling his merch and personal appearances.
-enjoy the few minutes of wrestling talk, but fast forward through the latest "outlaw mud show" rant, which he says the same stuff every time. This got old very fast, and he's got Joey Ryan more publicity than Joey Ryan could get for himself. I've never seen a Joey Ryan match by the way, but I get tired of hearing Cornette bitch about him. WE GET IT ALREADY.
-enjoy when Jim talks about music, such as going through his old mixtapes on the last couple episodes.
-fast forward through all the political rants (even if I agree with a lot of what he says). Again, same old bitching. WE GET IT ALREADY.
2. Corny's Drive-Thru (where he answers questions from fans)
-fast forward through another 10 minutes of schilling.
-laugh as the answer to every question begins with him making strange sighs, coughs, and other sounds, but then he usually unleashes some good old-school stories.
-the plus is there's no politics talk on this podcast.
With all that being said, I still enjoy the majority of his podcasts, but I've learned how to navigate through the fat and enjoy the steak.
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Post by TTX on Jan 11, 2019 17:44:20 GMT -5
Yeah I usually only listen to drive thru and skip any political talk.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 21:42:04 GMT -5
Cornette.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 11, 2019 0:30:15 GMT -5
My friend Alan booked this match for QPW here in Las Vegas the night before ROH's 17th Anniversary PPV takes place at Sam's Town:  I completely understand why some people would not care for this matchup, but I think Joey Ryan is hilarious so I am looking forward to this match.  |
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Post by pikemojo on Feb 11, 2019 12:28:36 GMT -5
I am not the biggest fan of Jim Cornette... at least his modern role in wrestling. He was a great manager, don't get me wrong, but the constant complaining about indy wrestling gets REALLY old. Bring up Kenny Omega and he goes on a rant about a few comedy spots Omega did 15 years ago.
That said, I'm not a fan of Joey Ryan's penis-plex or the tampon spot. I suppose the tampon spot was at least more realistic than Ryan's "finisher" and was performed at a 18+ type of show (if memory serves) but it's still not something I'm a fan of in wrestling. I AM a fan of the fact that there are a lot of different styles in indy wrestling now. If people are fans of hardcore wrestling they can go to a CZW show, if they're fans of comedy mixed in with their wrestling they can go to a Chikara or a bar wrestling show. If they're fans of something a bit more traditional, there's promotions like ROH and many others out there.
Previous generations of wrestlers have always been complaining about the new generation. I remember a portion of Lou Thesz's book ragging on what was the current crop of wrestling at the time that book was written. I have read numerous magazine/newspaper articles from retired wrestlers not liking what was current. I get it but I also don't really think it's realistic to expect things to always stay the same.
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Post by Tournament Master on Feb 12, 2019 10:45:19 GMT -5
Previous generations of wrestlers have always been complaining about the new generation. I remember a portion of Lou Thesz's book ragging on what was the current crop of wrestling at the time that book was written. I have read numerous magazine/newspaper articles from retired wrestlers not liking what was current. I get it but I also don't really think it's realistic to expect things to always stay the same. Its not just wrestling, its any entertainment that evolves. The older generation always feels what they grew up on was better, whether it be music, cartoons, movies, wrestling, whatever. |
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Post by pikemojo on Feb 12, 2019 13:21:50 GMT -5
Previous generations of wrestlers have always been complaining about the new generation. I remember a portion of Lou Thesz's book ragging on what was the current crop of wrestling at the time that book was written. I have read numerous magazine/newspaper articles from retired wrestlers not liking what was current. I get it but I also don't really think it's realistic to expect things to always stay the same. Its not just wrestling, its any entertainment that evolves. The older generation always feels what they grew up on was better, whether it be music, cartoons, movies, wrestling, whatever. Very true. But can we all agree that the music the kids these days are listening to is just a bunch of noise? |
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Post by TTX on Feb 12, 2019 13:36:32 GMT -5
The comic strip Curtis actually covered this pretty well....most people remember the good stuff and tend to forget most of the bad and bland stuff so it always seems better.
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Post by Tournament Master on Feb 12, 2019 15:05:21 GMT -5
The comic strip Curtis actually covered this pretty well....most people remember the good stuff and tend to forget most of the bad and bland stuff so it always seems better. Very true! |
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