Running a non-storyline fed... how?

[smathis]

Feb 3, 2009 18:01:29 GMT -5 zanysteve said:

My legends fed isnt storyline based so sometimes I ignore a feud table roll. For example recently I had Pepper Gomez lose by DQ on deathjump to Danny Hodge with the match ending on a double.Gomez & Hodge are faces in that tour so it made no sense to have Gomez attack Hodge or vice versa..
Ive always wondered if there should be a feud table based on the wrestler(s) heel/face alignment.

The above quote from zanysteve is from filsingergames.proboards106.com/index.cgi?board=low&action=display&thread=2076.

So what is a fed that isn't storyline based? And how would one go about running it?

These are questions of personal interest to me because I've been interested in ditching storylines for a while now. Besides, I've found my best storylines tend to grow organically around whatever's been going on in the ring. Rather than vice-versa.

Thanks in advance for any tips you can give.

[graymar]

I have a copy of a feud chart...(apologies to the author...I don't recall who did it)...that has differing outcomes based upon alignment...and TV v house show.

[smathis]

I have one that's really super long and has lots of ASCII art charts on it. You have to roll, like, two sets of dice and cross-reference the results.

Is that the one?

While I prefer the feud chart to the official one I don't know how that helps with non-storyline feds? Or even what a non-storyline fed would really look like?

A tournament? A series of matches?

[TTX]

I often run a non storyline fed in my LOW. Really, it's just a series of matches. Things might happen, but they rarely have long term effects.

[j]

my fed is mostly non-storyline based, a few storylines may come here and there after a good match.

mostly i run just a series of random matches with everyones only goal is to win a title. In name only I have everyone paired off in feuds but only a few exceptions do storylines come into play.

[zanysteve]

I keep win-loss records and then rank the wrestlers.This rewards a wrestler who is on a hot streak . However sometimes I will "push" a wrestler slightly higher to get a better title series.
In my world tour there are 14 wrestlers in it, i just make a number schedule from that .That number schedule then can be used over and over. Usually the champion will face the #2 ranked three times in a ranking cycle.If #2 has beaten a #1 for title , the next supercard would feature a fourth match etc.
I have this system since the GWF fed days and it produces a lot of title changes but worthy champions.Many years ago in my GWF fed I use to have a rule where a rookie couldnt go for a title until his third ranking period.
Say Chaos came in , he couldnt wrestle for any title right away, then wait for the second period , and the third period he could go for any title. This prevents a rookie from winning the title right away.
By the middle of my GWF fed I ended up changing this rule to a wrestler could win a title in their second ranking period.I've used that ever since.Recently in my LWF , Don Muraco won my World title this way..He wrestle one ranking period going nearly undefeated and was ranked as a #2 contender for next ranking period and won the World Belt.
You can still have feud erupt from matches and settle them with matches at a supercard.

[Vegas]

As I don't even keep won-loss records, my LOW fed Major League Wrestling (MLW) is based alot on storylines.

Instead of a wrestler's ranking or record, I often have things such as #1 contender matches, automatic title shots I award to the surviviors of the tag elimination matches at my Survivor Series PPV, and storylines based on my match results (i.e. Bruiser Brody was the last man in the elimination chamber with Jimmy Snuka for the vacant World Championship and now Brody gets a singles match against Snuka for the title) to determine things like title shots.

I also often use my dice-determined match results to create new stroylines and feuds in my fed.

[smathis]

Feb 5, 2009 16:46:07 GMT -5 TTX said:

I often run a non storyline fed in my LOW. Really, it's just a series of matches. Things might happen, but they rarely have long term effects.

Feb 5, 2009 18:06:55 GMT -5 j said:

my fed is mostly non-storyline based, a few storylines may come here and there after a good match.

mostly i run just a series of random matches with everyones only goal is to win a title. In name only I have everyone paired off in feuds but only a few exceptions do storylines come into play.

These approaches seem similar, so I'm grouping them together. Is it all completely random or is there some rhyme and reason to it? Like how would you do rankings? How do you determine who comes in or out and when?

Do you have a limit to the number of guys in your fed at a time? Or is it just everybody all at once?

Do you keep any win-loss records? Or is there some other means that you book who's moving into contention?

[smathis]

Feb 5, 2009 19:31:59 GMT -5 zanysteve said:

I keep win-loss records and then rank the wrestlers.This rewards a wrestler who is on a hot streak . However sometimes I will "push" a wrestler slightly higher to get a better title series.
In my world tour there are 14 wrestlers in it, i just make a number schedule from that .That number schedule then can be used over and over. Usually the champion will face the #2 ranked three times in a ranking cycle.If #2 has beaten a #1 for title , the next supercard would feature a fourth match etc.
I have this system since the GWF fed days and it produces a lot of title changes but worthy champions.Many years ago in my GWF fed I use to have a rule where a rookie couldnt go for a title until his third ranking period.
Say Chaos came in , he couldnt wrestle for any title right away, then wait for the second period , and the third period he could go for any title. This prevents a rookie from winning the title right away.
By the middle of my GWF fed I ended up changing this rule to a wrestler could win a title in their second ranking period.I've used that ever since.Recently in my LWF , Don Muraco won my World title this way..He wrestle one ranking period going nearly undefeated and was ranked as a #2 contender for next ranking period and won the World Belt.
You can still have feud erupt from matches and settle them with matches at a supercard.

Hi Steve! Thanks for the response. I was hoping you'd drop by.

This sounds like an interesting way to run a fed. It's completely different from anything I've ever done. Which is good. Because I'm really tired of the way I've been doing things.

A few questions, if that's okay.

You mention a schedule that you reuse. Care to share? Or how did you come up with it?

It sounds like you have multiple titles in your tours? Is that right? Does each title have it's own ranking? And regarding the 14 per tour, is that 14 in each bracket or 14 total?

How do you work out who's going to be on a tour? Do guys carry over?

You also mention that rookies have to go through 3 periods before they can challenge for a title. What are the periods? Are they tours? Or are the tours broken up into periods?

Also, how do you do your ranking? And how do rankings affect your matches? If at all.

[smathis]

Feb 5, 2009 20:27:05 GMT -5 Vegas said:

As I don't even keep won-loss records, my LOW fed Major League Wrestling (MLW) is based alot on storylines.

Instead of a wrestler's ranking or record, I often have things such as #1 contender matches, automatic title shots I award to the surviviors of the tag elimination matches at my Survivor Series PPV, and storylines based on my match results (i.e. Bruiser Brody was the last man in the elimination chamber with Jimmy Snuka for the vacant World Championship and now Brody gets a singles match against Snuka for the title) to determine things like title shots.

I also often use my dice-determined match results to create new stroylines and feuds in my fed.

I guess I'm looking for a middle ground. Where I can have guys wrestling on a schedule (like other sports) or via ranking or some such, but still have some wiggle room when the dice introduce an interesting feud (or storyline).

Much like you've mentioned, I've found that the dice inject enough "drama" into my fed. I'm no longer feeling the need to plan for such things.

I'd just like some sort of framework for letting the dice fall where they may.

So how do you determine the #1 Contenders? What about people entering and leaving your fed?