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Post by Swarm on Jul 23, 2021 10:36:38 GMT -5
I think the problem is WWE is too scripted. I wish they would run their weekly TV shows more like they run their super cards. Obviously you have to build up the matches but they have been using the same formula since the MNW years. They still trot out their champions and biggest stars first and often multiple times in the show instead of last and only once - which would make them feel special like they do on the PPVS. They still do long scripted in ring promos instead of capturing spontaneous reactions before and after matches. There are WAY too many time outs on WWE tv where they are promoting things away from the ring and the current storylines. It’s constantly stopping and starting the flow of the show with these things that feel like extra commercials. 3 hours of this gets old very fast. Then you watch the super cards and it’s balls to the wall from 8-11. Lots of wrestlers wrestling having great matches at a fast fun pace. So ya in that sense the whole show is way too scripted with way too much structure and not enough spontaneous and unpredictable action you should expect from pro wrestling where anything can happen at anytime and not just on the few minutes you give the wrestlers in between all of your philanthropy and other promotions. AEW beats the piss out of WWE in terms of actual action content as long as you like who is on TV. |
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Post by Pariah on Jul 25, 2021 11:05:38 GMT -5
I’m not sure what to think about Punk. I thought he was wrong the way he quit. He said a lot of horrible things about both wrestling and wrestling fans when he left. Called fans homophobic slurs. Told them to kill themselves. Got beat up in two real fights. Frankly I’m surprised he decided to come back. Could not agree more... As most people know, I don't generally express personal opinions on the boards and I'm not going to stand on a soapbox now either... Just gonna say that I was really disappointed with the overall behavior displayed by Mr Brooks following his departure from the WWE. |
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Post by cruefan68 on Jul 25, 2021 12:56:39 GMT -5
I’m not sure what to think about Punk. I thought he was wrong the way he quit. He said a lot of horrible things about both wrestling and wrestling fans when he left. Called fans homophobic slurs. Told them to kill themselves. Got beat up in two real fights. Frankly I’m surprised he decided to come back. Could not agree more... As most people know, I don't generally express personal opinions on the boards and I'm not going to stand on a soapbox now either... Just gonna say that I was really disappointed with the overall behavior displayed by Mr Brooks following his departure from the WWE. Well I'm with you guys on CM Punk. The problem is he is too big a name for AEW to ignore and signing both him and Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) is a no brainer. Punk was wrong for going after fans, his fans no less, but has seemingly gotten a pass for it. There is also the question of ring rust with Punk but I suppose he could be used in promo spots while preparing for an in-ring return. I'm more into seeing Bryan in AEW but that is if I watch. Funny thing is I had AEW on my DVR from the start and would also watch live on Wednesdays if NXT wasn't on. When NXT moved to Tuesday nights I figured I would keep watching AEW but I really got tired of it so I removed it from my DVR and now just gloss over results or watch the quick YouTube clips. What got me tired of it was some of the guys being pushed, a severe lack of attention to the women's division on many episodes of Dynamite and most of all Jim Ross and Excalibur on commentary. Ross just seems like he is lacking something and Excalibur being the know it all (calls every single move, knows every surprise wrestler instantly) is a big turnoff. Maybe I should go back to watching but on mute  |
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Post by MHardcore on Jul 25, 2021 17:43:21 GMT -5
I’m on the side of corporations & think the employer should be able to treat his employees poorly & they should eat poop n like it. I’ve never complained about my boss after leaving a job because I was forever in gratitude to them for my opportunities. The opportunities wasted because my talents and appeal weren’t recognized are faults solely of my own. How I was treated or looked at is irrelevant.
Never mind if was was ejected from the building by a winless Corporate stooge or told to play w the Boss’ son in law (even though I didn’t like him & our play date would’ve only benefitted him & sent me back further).They could even fire me on my wedding date. Wouldn’t bother me a bit.
Full servitude & obedience is the way of the land.
Problem w Punk is that he isn’t a suck-up and doesn’t give in to group think. And maybe when u know u deserve better, whatever ur field, you may have gripes. They made each other money. Some people want more than that.
Nowadays he’s likely pretty far from BITW, but I’m glad to have him back.
They likely won’t have the same impact as the outsiders but their credentials & work rate are higher. That being said, I think they will have a sizable Impact & help AEW stay in the range they are in now and likely add a few hundred thousand more people more on a per week basis.
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Post by Pete on Jul 25, 2021 21:48:14 GMT -5
Punk's worst act was his treatment of Colt Cabana in the midst and aftermath of their WWE lawsuit. That was deplorable and more than a little hypocritical of him to boot.
Telling WWE to p*** off, based on their treatment (or lack thereof) of his injuries? No problem there.
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Post by Swarm on Jul 26, 2021 6:26:11 GMT -5
Phil Brooks quitting because he was booked to lose the Rock is all you really need to know about him. Calling fans homophobic slurs and telling them to to kill themselves is pretty bad too, but everybody makes mistakes. But being crabby losing to the Great One? The Rock is a bonafide superstar Mount Rushmore type. Punk is a really popular indy wrestler. You would think he would be honored to be in the ring w guys like Taker and Rock but Punk has always been his characters biggest fan. Pretty sure nobody else can say they got all upset losing to the Rock. It’s still ridiculous.
As far as Punk in AEW. I bet it’s more like his UFC appearances. Big money for one or two matches in Chicago and NY. Can’t see him coming back full time or even part time like Moxley,
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Post by Swarm on Jul 26, 2021 6:29:37 GMT -5
I’m on the side of corporations & think the employer should be able to treat his employees poorly & they should eat poop n like it. I’ve never complained about my boss after leaving a job because I was forever in gratitude to them for my opportunities. The opportunities wasted because my talents and appeal weren’t recognized are faults solely of my own. How I was treated or looked at is irrelevant. Never mind if was was ejected from the building by a winless Corporate stooge or told to play w the Boss’ son in law (even though I didn’t like him & our play date would’ve only benefitted him & sent me back further).They could even fire me on my wedding date. Wouldn’t bother me a bit. Full servitude & obedience is the way of the land. Problem w Punk is that he isn’t a suck-up and doesn’t give in to group think. And maybe when u know u deserve better, whatever ur field, you may have gripes. They made each other money. Some people want more than that. Nowadays he’s likely pretty far from BITW, but I’m glad to have him back. They likely won’t have the same impact as the outsiders but their credentials & work rate are higher. That being said, I think they will have a sizable Impact & help AEW stay in the range they are in now and likely add a few hundred thousand more people more on a per week basis. He was a paid actor paid to play a part. Real life Phil Brooks is not a threat or a tough guy, Taking himself too seriously cost him his career, his integrity in fighting sports and tarnished his image in a way he can never get back. Dude even screwed over his best friend. He really has gotten everything he deserves. |
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Post by MHardcore on Jul 29, 2021 18:32:28 GMT -5
I’m guessing that’s somewhere around 7 figures. And he’s the hottest thing in pro wrestling without being in a wrestling ring for 7 years. Likely starting off w red-hot Darby Allin who is more than likely an opponent picked by Punk. Much better schedule. Control of his character. A loving wife. Dream matches.
I agree he’s far from the best ever & will likely be a little rusty, but his return to wrestling is great for the business. I also don’t think he’s a tough guy like Meng, but he followed his dream & failed. So I can’t hold that against him. His 2nd match was a no-contest tho cuz his opponent was juicing. Lol
Disco Inferno & Vince Russo aren’t the only wrestling personalities that think the fans are Mark’s or much worse. Punk making stupid comments can go right along w the rest of the old guys.
If he would’ve went back to Stamford, I bet the fans who are upset w this, would be slightly less upset. I don’t care where a guy wants to make a living. I like Keith Lee, Matt Riddle, Claudio, Cedric Alexander, Adam Cole, Ricochet,Steenerico & a bunch of other guys in WWE. Don’t hate em cuz they are making a living. Just don’t get to watch them anymore because they work for a company that is ran be a senile old man who is very set in his ways, & never learns from his mistake.
I hope these signings makes WWE better, but John Cena & Goldberg being around for a few months isn’t gonna work. It never has before, yet we beat the drum one more time. Get a quick ratings pop & maybe make a few more bucks at the expense of the young talent. That’s why WWE has no real stars other than Roman, yet a bunch of talent.
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Post by Swarm on Jul 29, 2021 19:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by Swarm on Jul 29, 2021 22:20:46 GMT -5
Darby Allin is cool but that’s a bit lackluster if that’s the guy Punk wrestles in his first match back. Omega, PAC, Pentagon, heck even Cody Rhodes would make a much better story. What does Punk gain beating Darby Alllin? Even if Darby looks good losing (which AEW is big into doing with their young guys vs vets) is anybody going to be surprised he lost? It’s seems like a lose/lose for him.
It will also be interesting to see which opponent brings up his MMA career first, MJF? Anthony Ogogo?
The return entrance will be memorable for sure. I’m just not sure how much actual mileage his return will have.
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