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Post by tystates on Aug 6, 2021 17:59:56 GMT -5
I have the Von Erich game and it is a board game. I also have a Mil Mascaras board game and the Gordon Solie trivia game.
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Post by whlineup on Aug 6, 2021 20:22:37 GMT -5
This is good stuff. Never really played this game or the Von Erich's game, though I admit, I have been tempted to go and buy them now on Ebay just for the collector aspect alone assuming you can still find them.
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Post by DK II on Aug 6, 2021 20:35:34 GMT -5
I picked COTG over Superstar Pro. I liked the futuristic, sci-fi aspect of COTG more. I think I made the right choice. DITTO. My major decision point was that I could pretty much see "real" wrestlers on TV or at arenas & COTG brought something other than that...which is what I was looking for...plus I was also discovering SciFi/Fantasy novels and COTG was on a similar vein. |
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Post by Pete on Aug 6, 2021 23:58:13 GMT -5
Never played Superstar, never really heard of it until probably into the 2000s. The fantasy aspect of COTG appealed to me as well, and I agree with Stu that basically rolling for initiative for every move is a rather wonky system. That said, I've downloaded the PC version and an extensive bootleg collection--there are some deep, DEEP cuts out there that people have made, and I've learned a lot and borrowed a lot when doing Legends bootleg research of my own.
I think the main thing the Filsinger system has over every other cards-and-dice wrestling game I've tried is its flexibility. Granted, it's lasted the longest and has had the most time for experimentation, but I've never seen another game attempt FG's "mechanics" that allow you to modify individual cards as one sees fit to accommodate specific characteristics. You rarely ever even see tag finishers, much less defensive finishers, moves that only hit on certain rolls, etc. There's almost no aspect to an FG card that can't be subject to an exception or a modification, whereas all the other games I've tried are so much more rigid by comparison.
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Post by "Emperor Norton" (Mark T) on Aug 7, 2021 2:25:01 GMT -5
Just got done listening. I was always interested in Superstar Pro Wrestling game based on the ads in the magazines, but never went for it because even to my pre-teen mind it looked "cheap and bootleg". I DID however finally get the licensed NWA edition. Still have it and about a dozen cards I did for it (Doom, Scott Steiner, Lex, Pillman, Hayes etc). You can see a few on my Instagram page: http://instagram.com/p/CMNJYGnsB_X Also, if you scroll through you'll see I have way better AWA Remco figures than Chad does (also mentioned on the show). I kid, of course! But how about Doctor D, Ronnie Garvin, and Magnum? Nope, because I made 'em myself. Also the official ones as well, all in nearly new condition with all the robes and jackets and stuff kids tended to lose. ....We will not talk about the investment of time and money.... |
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Post by natureboi on Aug 7, 2021 4:39:05 GMT -5
I have the Von Erich game and it is a board game. I also have a Mil Mascaras board game and the Gordon Solie trivia game. I bought the Von Erich game when it came out and still have it near mint. I might have played it two or three times and that was enough. It's a nice keepsake. I have several editions of Superstar in well played condition. It was the wrestling game for its time, which was the 1980's. It doesn't really hold up well today. |
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Post by TDalton on Aug 7, 2021 8:42:35 GMT -5
Here's a question probably mainly for Chad and Tim. Did you guys buy the Von Erichs game that was in the Apter mags around the same time? I never pulled the trigger on that one and have no idea what it was. It kinda looked more like BOARD game rather than a card and dice game. I remember seeing this game, but never bought or played it. |
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Post by whlineup on Aug 7, 2021 9:23:11 GMT -5
Just got done listening. I was always interested in Superstar Pro Wrestling game based on the ads in the magazines, but never went for it because even to my pre-teen mind it looked "cheap and bootleg". I DID however finally get the licensed NWA edition. Still have it and about a dozen cards I did for it (Doom, Scott Steiner, Lex, Pillman, Hayes etc). You can see a few on my Instagram page: http://instagr.am/p/CMNJYGnsB_X Also, if you scroll through you'll see I have way better AWA Remco figures than Chad does (also mentioned on the show). I kid, of course! But how about Doctor D, Ronnie Garvin, and Magnum? Nope, because I made 'em myself. Also the official ones as well, all in nearly new condition with all the robes and jackets and stuff kids tended to lose. ....We will not talk about the investment of time and money.... Dude! Those AWA Figs are sweet! Do you do custom carding for them as well? |
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Post by Brian V on Aug 7, 2021 10:28:12 GMT -5
I did own the Superstar Pro Wrestling Game. I bought the first set that came out with 60 wrestlers on 8 1/2 X 11 sheets of paper. Tiger Mask won my first 60 man tournament. I bought a few of the other sets along the way, but definitely not all of them. I quit buying stuff before the NWA set came out. I had already started playing CoTG by that time and couldn't afford to buy stuff for 2 games at once, and the cards were different than the previous ones (as you talked about, it was the ropes chart on each card being 1-6 instead of 2-12. Also, I felt like CoTG and the GWF was a more "realistic" (you can laugh about that one!) federation than the real wrestlers. I mean, even with LOW (which I LOVE), we have game cards based, pretty much, on how well someone acted or was portrayed by a promoter (PLEASE don't hate me for saying that!), as with the GWF I felt like it could be a real, legitimate sport.
Maybe I didn't understand exactly the timeline you kind of discussed (I had the Olympics on TV and streaming dirt track races on my other 2 computers, 3 phones and a tablet, so I may or may not have paid as close of attention to everything you said as I should..LOL) but my memory, and the condition of some of my cards would agree with this, but I'm 99% sure that the set with Arm Anderson, Oil Anderson, etc. came out before the Masked wrestlers and the blank ones. I'm sure the ad that I received in the mail (no, I don't have it anymore) said the next set would have Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson and all the others. It was between the time they announced this set and offered it for sale and the time I actually received it that they got in trouble for using the real names. I remember how disappointed I was to open the package and see the names. Then I'm sure came the masked wrestlers and I think they realized there wasn't room to write the wrestlers real name in the box so the next couple sets were the blank ones. What I'm sure I didn't hear talked about was the manager cards. They came with one of the blank sets, I think there was 4 of them, and of course, they were blank as well. I still have my championship lineages from the couple years I ran a fed with SPW and still remember a few of the epic (and one that I remember because it was a HUGE disappointment!) matches that I had. Just to give people a good reason to pick on me (ok...ANOTHER good reason), I didn't understand the rules completely, and when I used the pin chart, I didn't use the column for the total number of points a wrestler had, I instead used the difference in points to determine which column to roll under. So, anytime a guy that was behind in points rolled for a pin attempt, I used the 0-10 column. This made for some VERY long matches if the guys were evenly matched!!!! LOL I finally figured out my error when I got the strategy pin chart you talked about....because it didn't make sense the way I had been playing.
Anyway, another great episode, and thanks for bringing back some great memories. I think Todd should start paying you guys for doing the show. Becasue of Uncharted Territory, I got fired up about LOW again and spent a whole bunch of money catching up on the sets I needed!
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Post by throwingtoasters on Aug 7, 2021 11:28:09 GMT -5
Great episode friends. Thanks for posting my unboxing video. I go over some of my cards and matches in it. I, like Chad, was young and didn’t know what I was doing.
I think I spent a really intense summer playing Superstar Pro but then it petered out when I got into Junior High School. I need to break it out and play against.
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