Rolling a pin

[Bazzy]

Just once . What's 3 times ? Never heard of it

[Travis605]

Once.

[Swarm]

Once for PIN

Once for any - 3 move accompanied by a DQ (like Shayne’s - 3 dis move)

Once for FINISHER (+X) dis

Twice for regular DQ (on charts)

Three times for Champions advantage: the champ must roll PIN three consecutive times (as in 1-2-3!) to relinquish the belt.

This rule prevents fluke title changes on snake eyes.

I think all these rules minus the champions advantage should be used in GCON tournaments, especially only rolling once (not twice) for DQ - 3 moves and DQ FINISHERS.

[ajcostello]

I only roll once, regardless of championship status, but I like the idea of rolling three times for a Texas Death Match.

[Wookie7969]

Nov 15, 2021 7:56:01 GMT -5 Swarm said:

Once for PIN

Once for any - 3 move accompanied by a DQ (like Shayne’s - 3 dis move)

Once for FINISHER (+X) dis

Twice for regular DQ (on charts)

Three times for Champions advantage: the champ must roll PIN three consecutive times (as in 1-2-3!) to relinquish the belt.

This rule prevents fluke title changes on snake eyes.

I think all these rules minus the champions advantage should be used in GCON tournaments, especially only rolling once (not twice) for DQ - 3 moves and DQ FINISHERS.

I would only roll once for DQ moves and everything else.
For me I've always rolled 3 times for the pin to simulate the 1..2...3 Think it just feels more natural but must try the standard 1 roll.

[the_faction]

Nov 15, 2021 7:56:01 GMT -5 Swarm said:

Once for PIN

Once for any - 3 move accompanied by a DQ (like Shayne’s - 3 dis move)

Once for FINISHER (+X) dis

Twice for regular DQ (on charts)

Three times for Champions advantage: the champ must roll PIN three consecutive times (as in 1-2-3!) to relinquish the belt.

This rule prevents fluke title changes on snake eyes.

I think all these rules minus the champions advantage should be used in GCON tournaments, especially only rolling once (not twice) for DQ - 3 moves and DQ FINISHERS.

I play it exactly the same, except for the champions advantage and I get the fluke changes and I do get frustrated by short reigns, but I'm just so Sunk Costs now on my title history I just couldn't imagine changing mid stream.

Although I will roll each die individually for title matches to simulate a 1,2 and then pause for the 2nd die roll for drama or if the champ kicks out on the 1st roll it's a strong kick out!

[Lee]

There are some pretty good ideas here - I am considering doing a champions advantage thing but not sure.

[Swarm]

Nov 17, 2021 19:30:42 GMT -5 Lee said:

There are some pretty good ideas here - I am considering doing a champions advantage thing but not sure.

Try it at super cards only first and see how it goes. I’ve been doing it forever after way too many champs with only 1 defense due to fluke early low rolls.

With finisher ratings, it’s not a huge advantage. I’ve had title changes when a guys pin is only 4 or 5 due to a big finisher rating. You’ll still get 3 consecutive rolls under 4 or 5. But what it prevents is a quick title change on a regular -3 move or chart roll due to snake eyes.

[Lee]

Nov 17, 2021 20:17:33 GMT -5 Swarm said:

Nov 17, 2021 19:30:42 GMT -5 Lee said:

There are some pretty good ideas here - I am considering doing a champions advantage thing but not sure.

Try it at super cards only first and see how it goes. I’ve been doing it forever after way too many champs with only 1 defense due to fluke early low rolls.

With finisher ratings, it’s not a huge advantage. I’ve had title changes when a guys pin is only 4 or 5 due to a big finisher rating. You’ll still get 3 consecutive rolls under 4 or 5. But what it prevents is a quick title change on a regular -3 move or chart roll due to snake eyes.

Yeah I am definitely going to try it for my next big show. I had the same problem with my GWF. The belts bounced around too much. So this will fix that problem with my Legends and Indies feds.

[jobber83]

I roll 3x's for my weekly shows w/o the advanced PIN rating, so that the matches don't last too long and then I use the advanced PIN for Supercards and still roll 3x's to simulate the lengthier matches you would tend to get with those.