FTR Returns in COTG Prime 2022!

[Swarm]

Congrats to Sam on completing his 2nd FTR book. Definitely not the direction I ever saw for Sonny Rocket, but I’m trying my best to be a good sport here and support the guys and the new visions they have for old characters.

Let’s see where it goes.

[malicelover]

Jan 20, 2023 16:46:30 GMT -5 MonkeyDBain said:

Question... what reference was used for Hitora? All of my sources say "fire tiger" is 火の虎 hi no tora, literally something like "a tiger made of flames(fire)".


Hitora is the word used when speaking about Adolf Hitler.

Are all of your source anime? Because I mean this link that took me less than a minute to find by just searching "Hitora" shows that the meaning of the name as written in Japanese is "fire" and "tiger"

Here's the link: japanese-names.info/first-name/hitora/

[MonkeyDBain]

Jan 21, 2023 15:10:31 GMT -5 malicelover said:

Jan 20, 2023 16:46:30 GMT -5 MonkeyDBain said:

Question... what reference was used for Hitora? All of my sources say "fire tiger" is 火の虎 hi no tora, literally something like "a tiger made of flames(fire)".


Hitora is the word used when speaking about Adolf Hitler.

Are all of your source anime? Because I mean this link that took me less than a minute to find by just searching "Hitora" shows that the meaning of the name as written in Japanese is "fire" and "tiger"

Here's the link: japanese-names.info/first-name/hitora/

My sources are textbooks, vocabulary books, and 4 Japanese people, including my tutor.

Most naming websites are not done by Japanese, but by westerners who just put words together.

[Swarm]

Jan 21, 2023 15:10:31 GMT -5 malicelover said:

Jan 20, 2023 16:46:30 GMT -5 MonkeyDBain said:

Question... what reference was used for Hitora? All of my sources say "fire tiger" is 火の虎 hi no tora, literally something like "a tiger made of flames(fire)".


Hitora is the word used when speaking about Adolf Hitler.

Are all of your source anime? Because I mean this link that took me less than a minute to find by just searching "Hitora" shows that the meaning of the name as written in Japanese is "fire" and "tiger"

Here's the link: japanese-names.info/first-name/hitora/

Yikes, Barry. You came in like a wrecking ball and promptly got shot out of a cannon into the stratosphere on this one.

[Thomas (TK)]

Ummm...barry...he's not wrong...

Hitora is word for man and Hitler

[on_the_edge]

Well why do you guys thing he wears a mask.

[MonkeyDBain]

Please know I was not attacking anyone, just really curious as I study Japan and Japanese very thoroughly and knew of the Hitler link.

Now another Japanese friend of mine sent me a message a bit ago and said she did have a teacher in middle school with that name, but she thinks he used a different kanji for it.

I don't think it matters much, everything is printed and not many people are as compulsive as I am on these things. Yea for Autism.

[on_the_edge]

I don't know. You might be on to something. I mean, we did have an Adam Traitor with a swastika. Maybe now Hitler in a mask. You might have uncovered a Nazi conspiracy in the GWF.

Then again, maybe not but you did bring up an interesting point.

[Sam Fain]

Hey everyone -

Apologies for not responding sooner. The truth is, I guess I'm just not on the boards as much as I once was. Appreciate the feedback and enthusiasm for the handbook.

That said, the unfortunate circumstances surrounding the name of Hitora needs to be addressed. I certainly never intended there to be any controversy over the name. I came up with it by researching the words for tiger (tora) and fire (hi). Upon doing a bit of research, I found it was a name in use to this day (a google search will return a plethora of un-Hitler related names - teachers, a rugby player, businessmen, etc) and has been used in a few other pieces of media. Hi-no-tora was indeed on the table at one point, but I simply didn't like the way it sounded or looked. Hitora seemed to fit and meant what I was going for.

Upon seeing MonkeyDBain's comments, my heart sank. However, I did some more research, and there are a couple of things that might help contextualize things. Hitora is indeed the romaji for Hitler, however the kanji are completely different from the researched name for the character Hitora. Additionally, the romaji actually includes an accent over the "a". Japanese - which I too have a little experience with - generally does not have stressed syllables and the accented "a" is an important disctinction here as is the role of romaji. The names are pronounced differently, the kanji is different, and there's no accent over the "a" in our character's name.

Again, it's important to recognize that Hitora is not the Japanese translation for Hitler - it is however, unfortunately, the way it is pronounced and the romanization is spelled - with an accent and stress on the "a". Hitora - the words for "fire" and "tiger", respectively uses entirely different kanji and has no stress in the pronunciation of the name.

On top of all of this, anyone that knows me knows that I would never use the name Hitler or anything he stood for for any story purpose - this was not intentional, and I'm sorry for the oversight.

I hope this helps and if anyone feels uncomfortable using the character because of the unintentional and unfortunate connection, it is, as alwasy, up to you promoter.

[on_the_edge]

It's all good. I doubt anyone thought it was the intent to tie it to the Hitler name. It is a coincidence, and it should be pointed out there were tons of Hitlers before dumb ass Adolph came along and ruined the family name.